Excelsior

Hello,

Been playing this shard about a week now,and i noticed some things.I understand this is not a osi shard and things are very different.But,i was hoping if some changes could be made or put in?Here are a list of some things i would like to see,and if any willing to hear both sides of the coin:)

1)ninjitsu- is overally nerfed.Only one animal form works,and gives you +20 stealth.Rest as if you just casting a polymorth spell cause they give no change whatsoever.How they are in a osi shard are the following:

Rabbit 0 skill Grants a 20 point bonus to the stealth skill.
Rat 0 skill Grants a 20 point bonus to the stealth skill.
Cat 40 skill Increases regeneration rate. The increase is based on your Ninjitsu skill.
Dog 40 skill Increases regeneration rate. The increase is based on your Ninjitsu skill.
Giant Serpent 50 skill Inflicts low level poison whenever you strike your opponent with a non-ranged weapon.
Bullfrog 50 skill Inflicts poison when your enemy damages you at short range.
Ostard 70 skill Increases movement speed.
Llama 70 skill Increases movement speed.
Wolf 85 skill Increases movement speed and grants a bonus to both your hit chance and maximum hit points.
Bake-Kitsune 85 skill Increases movement speed and grants a bonus to both your hit chance and maximum hit points.
Unicorn 100 skill Increases movement speed and grants immunity to low level poisons.
Ki-Rin 100 skill Increases movement speed and regenerates stamina quickly.

2)Breath weapon-Ok,i understand need to be a challenge.But,instant death to a breath weapon is overboard.I think it should be capped at 50 points damage.It basically forces everyone to be a tamer and use pets/bio's to attack something first before they even dream of attacking.

3)Taming-again i understand things need to be a challenge,but some monsters are sillly.Forcing you to have 4+ pets to even kill something.I never had a tamer in my 12 years of uo.Now, on this shard i will be forced to be one, to be able to complete certain things.

4)Items-There are so many elf items missing in this game.First ,you cant even be a elf.You cant loot any elf weapons.Is this shard scared of anything elf?


Thats all i maily see,that i find odd about this shard.Again, i am not trying to make it like a rant.But,is it possible to change these or update the shard?

TheOldMule wrote: 2)Breath weapon-Ok,i understand need to be a challenge.But,instant death to a breath weapon is overboard.I think it should be capped at 50 points damage.It basically forces everyone to be a tamer and use pets/bio's to attack something first before they even dream of attacking.

3)Taming-again i understand things need to be a challenge,but some monsters are sillly.Forcing you to have 4+ pets to even kill something.I never had a tamer in my 12 years of uo.Now, on this shard i will be forced to be one, to be able to complete certain things.

Nothing forces you to use pets or have pets, even use them if you have them. Use tactics and strategy, also pick your battles. Just like the Umbris Camp, take your pets there and find out the meaning of the word "useless". There is also a dungeon in the works (If I understood correctly) that does not allow pets. Personally I like the heavy hitters in the game, they make me move faster and think more. Fighting a paragon ancient wyrm with no pets and tanking him is a nice little rush. If you are of the opinion that you should be able to fight everything without pets or just because it is there and win everytime, that is called the [kill and fairly sure we don't have access

As Nelapsi said there isn't anything on the shard that forces anyone into having pets, But the way the shard is run everyone has pets because one major thing is you can have every skil, which people then can have there normal setups like 'tank mage' but have the options of having there pets too...

Another major thing here is also weapon levelling, where as you can make your weapon into a custom weapon and make it 'uber' almost...

So there are things that counter act the whole "I can't kill anything without pets" in place you just have to use your brain and not the all kill command....

I never had a tamer in my 12 years of uo.Now, on this shard i will be forced to be one, to be able to complete certain things.

I'm sorry but I think that is very disrespectful, you have been here a week and you come onto the forums to 'dis' the fact that pretty much everyone on here loves to have pets, on here pets are almost like an accessory... "look how cool my bio is" etc

I don't get why you wanted to suggest things, to then go onto non constructive flaming of people wanting/needing/having pets

4)Items-There are so many elf items missing in this game.First ,you cant even be a elf.You cant loot any elf weapons.Is this shard scared of anything elf?

To say what you have said there really does indicate you can't be bothered to look past your nose, This is Colibris shard what he wants implemented is down to him, I don't like the whole 'race' system or 'elf' characters myself, but if it hasn't been done by now I can't see it being something that would even be thought about too soon.

My suggestion is wait for at least a month before you decide this shard isn't for you and you will see where I am coming from, there is a lot of fun to be had on this shard, it is by far the best non-PvP one there is that's for sure!

Gunna chuck in my 2 cents worth....

I hear the arguement alot, pets vs no pets.... I think on a shard where there is no skill cap the arguement is obsolete. There is maybe a handful of mobs that you cant tank (once you have been here a while) and its not that hard to pull them out when the occasion calls for it.

I think its just egocentric behaviour imo. Look at how hard i am. I dont need pets.

If the fire breath was capped at 50 there is a few people on the shard that would never die. (except with a +V event ) With the relayered weapons, leveled weapons etc there has to be something on the shard that is more of a challenge.

Just my 2c

You will never solve the tamer debate:)It doesnt matter the shard,you will always have hardcore tamer fans and will defend it to the death.We all have our own play style,i am saying i am not a fan off it.In my short experiences so far for example i dont see how a person without pets can defeat a fire ruby dragon.Maybe i havent figured a right tactic yet?Or that red serpent thing in bedlam,i think i was hit for 109 out of nowhere.For someone that is new,its like walking into a instant death.I hear,that the proxy hit you for over 2500 points?Just a little extrem in my mind.


Yes,it is true you can become a uber pixel on the screen(if you donate money,or grind your way and get all the goc's).Which for the player that doesnt have the money to donate isnt going to get uber for awhile.

I am not bashing the shard,just asking if any changes could happen.Well anything happen from my little post?Probally not,but its worth a shot!

Is there any stabs at the ninjitsu class and the animal forms?

fyi you don't have to donate to get "uber" things. FYI: i'm putting together an event for next month actually 2. the prizes total for both events is gonna be 1100 eds and 11 unitubs. but i need to find out if there are gonna be any events on Halloween. there have been plenty of "chances" to get those eds. sometimes gm's host events with eds. remember the easter hunt where one of the gm's spawned gold, token checks, and eds. i've normally play pk shard, but this is the very first nonpk shard i've ever played, and i've totally enjoyed it!! I met new and interesting people, whom i call my friends now.

About pets: i've always learned: never get your hands dirty, but let someone/thing else do your dirty work for you (in pk shards i let my followers do the dirty work). plus, most quests (minus the Mage quest) you can melee yourself. The gravedigger's quest you do not need pets for. Solen hive or the ambitious queen quest you do not need pets. Yeah umbris camp (scary); you can't use pets (much), and it's very hard (i die a lot). Also, some people have 10 pets slots; so what do you do reduce it down and reimburse the 500 eds per slot? When i first started i realized this is a tamer shard (to the most part), and so i donated to make sure i had the max amount of pet slots (improves speed of kill, and is just plain fun. ). Yeah i could of invested in a suit of armor, but i knew that i would make money faster; by having more pets.

About classes: Mondain legacy has a lot of cool classes. like gargoyles and some really cool items only for certain classes, but...do you want to do the debugging for those classes, because of the custom scripts Colibri has? I wish i had more time to play but life interferes with that, and i'm sure the gm's/seers/counselors/admins do too.

About disrespect: I believe in people's options, but... how would you like it if you made something you thought was great and have someone say "i believe it could be better"; kind of a slap in the face huh?

Proper way of asking a question:

4)Items-There are so many elf items missing in this game.First ,you cant even be a elf.You cant loot any elf weapons.Is this shard scared of anything elf?

try this. 4)Items- Is there any elf items in the game?

3)Taming-again i understand things need to be a challenge,but some monsters are sillly.Forcing you to have 4+ pets to even kill something.I never had a tamer in my 12 years of uo.Now, on this shard i will be forced to be one, to be able to complete certain things.

try this: 3)Taming-Is there any dungeons or places where i can melee things without using pets?


i'm not trying to get down on you, because like i said i respect people's options. FYI: there is a section in the forum that deals with suggestions.

I hope you do stay here because this shard has a lot to offer, and the staff is friendly (you don't find that in a lot of shards). If you have questions about this shard; please pm me. It's better to ask questions than to quit, which i believe you are trying to do here.

First thing, you say right in the title that it's not a rant but as I read the post, it sounds more like "why have you intentionally added so many flaws to this shard"

Now, this is a freeshard and we don't have everything exactly like OSI. Some is because it hasn't been coded to specification in detail, some things are missing, and some things were made custom (intentionally not like OSI).

The corrections to make animal form more like OSI sound great, and I would like if this were more precise though someone will have to code it.

As for elves, well something might be added in this direction but not sure when or if you will actually be able to make an elf character.

And yes, we are a tamer shard. Two things that basically make it that: no skill cap, and the ability to shrink pets. Then there's also the breeding and bio engineering, which make it possible to make very powerful 1-slot pets that you can take out and they actually do most of the damage. It's not easy to just completely change this, since many of the players here are used to this kind of play style. Though plans are to make regular melee more exciting.

The uber monsters out there haven't been put there so that everyone would have to be a tamer, but so that as people go out to kill them, even those with uber pets, so that those monsters have a chance of surviving more than just a couple seconds


P.S.: These are big changes you're requesting, while you have only been here for a week. This shard is 4 and a half years old.

+Colibri wrote:Though plans are to make regular melee more exciting.

YaY!!!

TheOldMule wrote:... In my short experiences so far for example i dont see how a person without pets can defeat a fire ruby dragon. ...

Mirror images, although on some things they dont work (e.g. ice wyrm + its area attack)

Sometimes i use pets, sometimes not. Depending on how I feel PvM without pets really adds to the fun factor, plenty of challenges to overcome out there.

+Colibri wrote: ... Though plans are to make regular melee more exciting. ...

Yaba Daba Doo!

I have noticed that life has become easier with 5 maxxed nobles, and while I cannot tank a fire ruby dragon, things like balrons are no sweat with confidence, sacred boon and a few bandaids. Even curse weapon for the vile hearted necromancers out there (i also hear vampiric embrace is nice but not in my RP) that wasnt too many ideas you had i dont think, but i also think coli and the gang could start small, maybe modify the strength table? More damage bonus for strength maybe? To even out the dex superiority, im more upset over having to stat my character in a specific way to "cap swing speed" when I dont envision my character as a speedy striker whos always dodging and weaving, no Ohmasa is a knight andI believe he should be str based for massive hits, maybe a 2:1 ratio of str to plus damage after 60 str, giving 220 str a +80 damage boost, I havent done the math, but this should effectively make it like performing a crushing blow special move, without the mana cost, every strike. Just an idea. (curious to see what coli has in mind though!)

I like hunting with melee but when it comes time to do some heavy farming im glad to have my pets around, they make it quicker to get the sweet loots and move on.

The reason alot of the stronger monsters are so strong is because of the breeding system making us capable of getting strong pets, the staff just beefed a few things up so the game still has that element of challenge, you take away the challenge you take away the fun in my opinion.

i acctualy started this shard with the intent to stay as a melee warrior, several months down the line, im mainly an archer.

I only use pets as a time saver as (appart from various dragon-kin) i can tank "almost" anything...the pets just make it take 10 seconds instead of 10 minites. use mirror image, or (might take a wile) get a decent cutlass with shadow strike and SS the mob to death...not only will you not need pets with that tactic, the enemy in question wont even see you ^_^

Needless to say, you dont NEED pets, they just help...like an extra pair of arms...or 5 lol.

I'v mentiond this point before on another thread, but...the mage inquisition quest (ice wyrm, flesh eating dragon, fire ruby dragon etc...) is NOT intended to be easy, nor is it intended to be for week old characters. Pase yourself, you will enjoy yourself more and experience EVERYTHING the shard has to offer!

i'd like to finish off by saying:

THIS SHARD IS FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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oh, and melee improvments? O_O yay!