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New Harrower System

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:53 pm
by heyyo
I forsee people with the Oaks skull selling tickets at a set price now that they can keep people from participating. Was this intended? I'm neutral on the subject, as it gives more opportunity to those who want to participate, but it comes at a price...

Re: New Harrower System

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:06 pm
by Alex
The person with skull has the right to invite anyone he or she chooses, and anyone not invited is by default not allowed to participate. Participating without the "ok" of the host is against the rules and will be dealt with accordingly by the gms. No player who did not have a skull had the option to participate or not. So I dont see much change in that regard. However, I think and please correct me if I am wrong, I think the changes were implemented to avoid people crashing a harrower party and causing problems. I have personally experienced this with an active player on the shard in the past. If this is the case, then the changes will eliminate the pages with regard to people joining without permission, which would be a nice add-on.

The skull sold for around 10-15 million per in the past. I doubt the price of the ticket (if sold) will sell for more.

Re: New Harrower System

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:16 pm
by +Nyx
This was something that was already done with the old system. Players would attempt to sell spots to the Harrower, I believe the most recent one the person was charging 1mil per spot. While I personally feel this is a distasteful and tacky thing for one to do, it isn't against the rules and that is unlikely to change.

Previously, players who were not invited could just walk up and attack the Harrower, securing a scroll for themselves without the permission of the person who summoned him. It caused much drama and took up lots of staffers' time dealing with the fallout each time it happened. With this new system that cannot happen, and thus will save the players and the staff a whole lot of headaches in the future.

Re: New Harrower System

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:28 pm
by ahorton12
never thought about selling access, good idea guys :)

Re: New Harrower System

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:34 am
by Ryche
Sad that systems like these need to be put into place but necessary with nearly any internet community. Very elegant solution.

Re: New Harrower System

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:37 pm
by heyyo
I'm mostly just curious as to what the going rate would be to buy tickets... I imagine in the past it would have been impossible to charge people: One person buys access then just leaks the harrower time/date and everyone just crashes the party!

Now, without a ticket, you're SOL. I want to see some HUGE public harrower gatherings because of cheap ticket prices :D

Re: New Harrower System

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:27 pm
by +Veritas
There is no official price. There is no rule against selling the tickets or handing them out for free.

I didn't make this system in order for there to be players who sell Harrower spots, but it certainly did make it easier. You could've done the same before this system was implemented, but now the person with all the skulls has complete control over who can participate.

I only hope to see more Harrowers done as friendly groups, guilds, or open to all, and fewer paid entry Harrowers.

Just like any element on this shard. If there seems to be a problem, then we will address it.

+V