Excelsior

This is starting to get old. I know it's not that big of a deal , but in some ways it is. Not sure where the server is located at but in the USA we have what is called false advertising laws. If you tell someone they are going to B for doing A and then you fail to comply it is considered false advertisement or even considered breach of contract. I now this has been going on off an on with the server for a while now. It gets old when you ask everyone to go vote and then they can not get the simplest of a reward for doing so. I know it only takes a few seconds to vote, but new players tend to use those ED to generate income, since the prices of items can be a bit high. What I am saying is their either needs to be a new reward but in place or a new system of voting put in place the does no rely on portal to work. Go ahead and bash me all you want I am not the only person thinking this just the only one willing to post and say it out loud

Did you vote on all 4 sites - every time?

http://www.uoex.net/forum/viewtopic.php ... rds#p46617

Also im pretty sure there is a post somewhere stating that the ED reward can and is succeptible for changes and may be taken away at any time. Didn't care to look for it.

Also the people behind Excelsior is providing you a free service which takes alot of work. If you want easy ED click the donate link at the top of the page.

If you keep voting, every day, og all four sites, then you might get a prize. Could be more players on the shard. Could be that the team will do more for the playerbase when there are more people. It could be that these new players will donate and deflate the price of ED. You never know...

Alll i know is that im getting a bit tired of these "GIVE ME STUFF FOR FREE" posts.

This is one of the vary reasons I am .... well who cares what I am doing ...

To many of you are making complaints about something that was being provided as a Extra. And now just because it doesn't work you feel you are entitled to get it just because you did this and that ....

IMHO this voting feature should just be removed. Granted it boosts votes but it takes away from why people should be voting for Excelsior in the first place. There is no merit to the vote what so ever if you're paying people to vote....
Everyone whom votes should vote on the different sites because they feel that Excelsior Deserves the vote. And not mind making a sacrifice of a whole 2 minutes of the day to do such. Think of the time The admins put into running the show...


SO just take the stone down and call it a day and let everyone move on ...

For everyone else Vote because you want to vote not because you get something for your vote....


Lestat

"but in the USA we have what is called false advertising laws"
Are you serious???
This is a free shard based on a pay to play game, that you are playing for free! You are going to bring a threat of legality to a game that you don't pay to play?

And the voting issue has nothing to do with this site, or it's voting mechanism. It has to do with the voting sites, which is beyond their control.

Wow...

I can't believe people are talking about false advertising and breach of contract. Is it not possible just to enjoy the game that is provided for free by a great team? You wont find a better UO server out there...

I've played here for over a year and only found out about ED collecting for voting recently and it didn't hinder my enjoyment or playing of the game because I didn't have EDs. Just try and enjoy the game

interestingly enough

when I started 3 years ago there was no vote stone, and I survived and thrived in fact (although I am not as consistant as I should be) I vote, and I rarely touch the stone, I voted because I like the server not for the promise of reward.

Shallazar wrote:This is starting to get old. I know it's not that big of a deal , but in some ways it is.

Sure, it's a big deal. Voting for ED is a part of the game play now. Part of the game play is broken. Broken game play makes me sad.

Shallazar wrote:Not sure where the server is located at

Montreal, Canada judging from the traceroute:

16 ae1.cr7.mtl.iweb.com (184.107.1.210) 22.481 ms 23.098 ms 23.440 ms
17 po22.cr3.mtl.iweb.com (184.107.1.2) 24.192 ms 23.793 ms 24.339 ms
18 te9-3.dr4.mtl.iweb.com (67.205.127.85) 23.007 ms * *
19 72.55.146.174 (72.55.146.174) 23.239 ms 22.414 ms 22.201 ms

When you find names in this form, the three-letter code (MTL) is often the airport code of the nearest airport. Also, IWeb is based in Montreal according to their DNS registration. So, two pieces of indirect evidence point to Montreal.

Shallazar wrote:but in the USA we have what is called false advertising laws.

Now that's just silly. This is a game and it's not even a game you're asked to pay for.

Were I in your shoes, I think I'd want to walk this one back. Maybe even apologize to the admins for the disrespect.

Regards,
Wil

Just wow man.....That comes off very rude the way it was worded, also if new players are hard up for items and money im 99.99% sure they can just ask for help and get some starting coin/items I see it happen frequently vets help new people quite alot. Then not only do they get items, they might get to learn a thing or 2 about the shard and also make a possible buddy.

False advertisement laws.........really?? Cant even tell if this post is troll or not.

Shallazar wrote:This is starting to get old. I know it's not that big of a deal , but in some ways it is. Not sure where the server is located at but in the USA we have what is called false advertising laws. If you tell someone they are going to B for doing A and then you fail to comply it is considered false advertisement or even considered breach of contract. I now this has been going on off an on with the server for a while now. It gets old when you ask everyone to go vote and then they can not get the simplest of a reward for doing so. I know it only takes a few seconds to vote, but new players tend to use those ED to generate income, since the prices of items can be a bit high. What I am saying is their either needs to be a new reward but in place or a new system of voting put in place the does no rely on portal to work. Go ahead and bash me all you want I am not the only person thinking this just the only one willing to post and say it out loud

Wowwwwww.

As has been repeatedly stated above, this is a free shard which is provided to you - that's right! - for free. It was stated in the post announcing this reward system that these rewards are subject to change or removal at any moment. It's also been announced and posted that the issues lately are due to the voting sites' various problems. IE: we have no control over them. If we can't verify the votes because the other sites are having issues, then we aren't just going to throw out free ED to every player who claims to have voted.

I'm so sick of the pages, the griping and now these whiny posts - the sense of entitlement is disgusting and I would fully support (and plan to suggest to +C) removing the voting reward all together, or changing it to something different. I'd enjoy seeing it give a little reward of various food deco or regs, and have a small chance of giving gold, tokens, or 1 ED. But let me just tell you, when I've spent 16+ hours every day for the last week doing nothing but working on getting the booster patch ready in time for October and editing the map for my facet for all of you to enjoy and then I read these pages/posts - it makes me sick.

So... yeah... those of you who throw out these threats of legal action or threaten to quit because we're not 'upholding our word' and all this other hooey we've been seeing since Gtop had their first day of DDOS attacks - please, do us all a favor and get over yourselves. It's pixel money, provided to you as a courtesy for voting for a shard that you play on for free. And it's the best shard out there, to boot.

So, complaining about something that is not even a service, but rather a gift of trust from our GM's?
That's greedy, my friend, and rude.
After all, the only reason you truly vote is for a certain reward, rather than as a way to say thank you to the staff of the best shard around.
Please, be humble and appreciate what you're given.

If you like the shard, just vote for it, if you don't, then keep your vote.

I more than agree with +Nyx on the subject of changing the reward. (Perhaps rewards that are based on amount of votes?)

Yoda wrote:interestingly enough

when I started 3 years ago there was no vote stone, and I survived and thrived in fact (although I am not as consistant as I should be) I vote, and I rarely touch the stone, I voted because I like the server not for the promise of reward.

And the item prices were way higher !!! There was no Mistvale itens !

Do you really need a better reward than brigging in more people to play with ??

About changing the rewards I agree with it, maybe something temporary, if you vote 1 day in a row you get 1k gold, 2 days 2k gold, up to a week of straight voting and you get 1 ed in the end.

Shallazar wrote:This is starting to get old. I know it's not that big of a deal , but in some ways it is. Not sure where the server is located at but in the USA we have what is called false advertising laws. If you tell someone they are going to B for doing A and then you fail to comply it is considered false advertisement or even considered breach of contract. I now this has been going on off an on with the server for a while now. It gets old when you ask everyone to go vote and then they can not get the simplest of a reward for doing so. I know it only takes a few seconds to vote, but new players tend to use those ED to generate income, since the prices of items can be a bit high. What I am saying is their either needs to be a new reward but in place or a new system of voting put in place the does no rely on portal to work. Go ahead and bash me all you want I am not the only person thinking this just the only one willing to post and say it out loud

"False Advertising" First of all, there was no advertisement. Secondly, the EDs were only offered (not promised) as a thank you.

"new players tend to use those ED to generate income" You want income? Kill a monster... get some gold and items. Sell the items, maybe skin it, sell the hides/leather. Chop a tree. Mine some ore. Craft stuff players want.. sell the stuff to players.

If you want to get rich, don't do it in a game. Go out and learn a craft in real life, and excel at it. Or, become a real lawyer and get rich in real life.

I could go on and on, as anybody that has talked to my in game or real life can tell you. But to sum it up, if you are gonna whine.. quit Excelsior and go away, we don't want you here anyway.

I do want to add, to the Admins.. keep in mind that the vast majority of players do appreciate your efforts. Please don't let the handful of bad apples ruin it for everybody else. Do what I would do, tell them to shut up or leave. And if they don't shut up, ban 'em.

+Nyx wrote:...the sense of entitlement is disgusting and I would fully support (and plan to suggest to +C) removing the voting reward all together, or changing it to something different. I'd enjoy seeing it give a little reward of various food deco or regs, and have a small chance of giving gold, tokens, or 1 ED. But let me just tell you, when I've spent 16+ hours every day for the last week doing nothing but working on getting the booster patch ready in time for October and editing the map for my facet for all of you to enjoy and then I read these pages/posts - it makes me sick.

I believe that about 99% of us are sick of the constant whining as well and support all of the +staff if you wish to change the reward or remove it all together. I would hope that most of us, even noobies like myself, have always thought of the ED reward as a gift and not something we're entitled to for playing a FREE shard. And yeah, it happens to be the BEST shard out there.
We all know that those of us that vote, on all the voting sites not just GTop100 *cough*, do so because we support the shard we love. The gift is just a bonus. And a bonus that whether it's an ED, or gold, or tokens, or whatever form it may come in, we appreciate it to no end. Much how we appreciate the constant work of the +staff to not only maintain this shard but add all the new content as well and support it's players like no other shard out there. Ever.

Don't worry, shardlings. No troll on earth will deter us from our projects! Staffing here is a labor of love for me, and I'm too stubborn to be deterred by drivel. We <3 y'all.

I don't really know what to add... I wrote in the public chat a few times that I'm working with the gtop100.com to resolve the issue, it hasn't been resolved yet. Voting takes about 3 minutes, you're welcome to do that even without the 1ED reward. The system is provided "as-is", I think it's good because it encourages voting.

As for the whole "playing people to vote", well we got to stay competitive if other shards are rewarding players to vote, it's not a good idea to lag too much behind.