Selfishness at Novice Champ Spawn

[krystol]

i really like your first idea, that would eliminate any possible prejudices.
probably not as simple recode for it to work in that manner tho, but if any reworks were done on this i would hope this was it.

if you wanna real easy fix, just remove gold from the champ. its only at most 160k, and people are only killing champs for powerscrolls right? although the most argued reason for not allowing others in a champ was so they could collect an extra 5k gold for their efforts.

[Nakkasu]

Also there have been gold issues lately, i would walk into a champ that was already completed and a gm would be sitting there dividing the gold because some gamers cant seem to find a civil way to split up gold.

I've been doing champs lately for powerscrolls only and just leaving the gold there for everyone else on the novice champ but mostly because i've no interest in the hassle.

Another option would be to make the novice champ drop no gold yet instead place a check in everyone's pack that participated for x amount of gold, or even in their bank.

Granted i'm not 100% for this because it removes gamers chances to make decisions be it poor or wise. However you wouldn't have to hold hands on the gold splitting in the novice champ.

Also i think the novice champ if you use this idea should give the same amount of gold to each person no matter how much effort was or was not given.

[Johnny Warren]

[rant]I thoroughly agree with Nakkasu. I agree with him naming the players who do this. For a friendly sever there are a lot of very selfish rude players out there. I often roll up to a champ around 8 skulls and get voted down instantly by 4 players... Why? No idea... im not stealing much of their gold, I'm not hindering their chance at getting a PS. All my involvement will be doing is making the champ go a little faster so that everyone can get back to hunting (or whatever you do) sooner. Yet people just have an instantaneous knee-jerk reaction "Ooooh someone wants in? NO. NO. *Clicks No*" Why?? Honestly... WHY?

It is one of the things i really cant stand... I understand if its 13th candle and you already have 6 players there... but when its like 3-5 and your only halfway... I vote yes to EVERYONE, unless as stated, we have a lot and its very late in....

People really need to pull there heads in here... think about who is joining, how many they already got and what reason there is to vote no before they just click it without thinking... If its not going to effect you then why click No? I just dont understand...
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[Rutgar]

2) Add a limit to how many times you can kill the novice champ in a day per account, you could set it up in 12/24/36 hour relays or whichever is needed.

I had mentioned this to Nakk because of people camping non stop. Because this is a Novice Champion designed for newbies only (under 21 days,) and for people to sit there and camp the only champion for the newbie players is quite unfair and demeaning to the idea of a healthy community. I honestly think I should be a one-a-day or maybe two, for each account. I really liked the idea of giving a check for a certain amount for participation, instead of having to hold the players hands.

[krothu]

This is the kind of actions that made me not even bother with champs anymore. I dont care about whether or not I get coin or scrolls I just would try to help out when someone would say such and such champ is up, but with all the arguing about who gets what well...I just dont need the headaches from it.

[Layfon Alseif]

To me this post has gotten really out of hand and seems like a whole bunch of complaining over nothing. If you miss a champ oh well keep better track of it. If you don't get voted in too bad there's always the next one. However I agree the gold should be split evenly at every non Master of the Arts champ. The reason the gold still falls around the champ instead of at the players feet is because it has not been coded yet (soon it will be). But every other champ has been fixed in this way and now every player gets their fair share of gold. If you don't like something get over it don't demand it to be changed. If I show up to a champ 10 candles in I usually don't even ask to join out of respect for those who worked to get those 10 candles. But I do vote in most players if it has just went to voting with that same respect for actually checking the champ. This server worked great for 5 years without any problems or complaints with novice champ. My only suggestions would be take out the vote to get in since its for beginners and all new players should have a chance to enjoy the spawn if they check it and also I think it should drop more gold then other champs since new players need gold the most.

[Rutgar]

. My only suggestions would be take out the vote to get in since its for beginners and all new players should have a chance to enjoy the spawn if they check it and also I think it should drop more gold then other champs since new players need gold the most.

I kind of agree with this option as well. Since you can only do this for 21 days, that leaves it optional to see what kind of players they will be. It really depends on your POV at this time, but we're offering suggestions not demanding anything.. Or at least I am / not ..

[Layfon Alseif]

Yea 21 days is a very short time to enjoy that champion spawn. When I started I never even knew about it or the rat quest until my account was 19 days old. Might be more new player friendly to extend the time to 30 days or add a 2nd novice champ spawn that's not a Master of the Arts.

[Nakkasu]

I love that you're putting suggestions in too, we're not trying to be pushy or unkind.

The goal is small improvements, i'm a vocal person and this is just one experience and a spot that could use improvement to promote community in new gamers to your server.

Ultimately you want to promote as much community as you can because most new gamers leave or quit playing when they're pushed away.


Overall my experience here so far has been great and enjoyable, i really appreciate the atmosphere exex gamers offer.