new donation rule

[Elmseeker]

Did anyone ever stop to think about this for even a miniscule amount of time, like 5 seconds? While the player base is mostly in the US the server itself is in Europe, which means they probably want to be paid in Euros. This being said, if +Colibri kept the donations in USD he would then not only have to make the difference between the USD value and the Euro value but paypal would charge him a rather large (around 12-20% unless using a personal account) to convert the USD to euros. This would all equate to a HUGE loss for him and would probably also mean kissing our beloved server goodbye.

[Adrias]

Did anyone ever stop to think about this for even a miniscule amount of time, like 5 seconds? While the player base is mostly in the US the server itself is in Europe, which means they probably want to be paid in Euros. This being said, if +Colibri kept the donations in USD he would then not only have to make the difference between the USD value and the Euro value but paypal would charge him a rather large (around 12-20% unless using a personal account) to convert the USD to euros. This would all equate to a HUGE loss for him and would probably also mean kissing our beloved server goodbye.

huh? I think you should take like 5 seconds to think about it. He isn't losing any money (other then paypal fees).

ake the difference between the USD value and the Euro value but paypal

who does he owe this imaginary difference to? how is he taking a loss on people giving him money? I am confused

[Trygg]

Did anyone ever stop to think about this for even a miniscule amount of time, like 5 seconds? While the player base is mostly in the US the server itself is in Europe, which means they probably want to be paid in Euros. This being said, if +Colibri kept the donations in USD he would then not only have to make the difference between the USD value and the Euro value but paypal would charge him a rather large (around 12-20% unless using a personal account) to convert the USD to euros. This would all equate to a HUGE loss for him and would probably also mean kissing our beloved server goodbye.

Elmseeker, have you donated to Ex Shard, at all? +Coli does not lose anything whether it's USD or EURO being donated, I pay for exchange of currency! There is no loss! +Coli receives all donations in EURO and always has, it's outlined in donation page to do so. Hence, I pay for exchange!

Man your thoughts are out there, it annoys me.

[Side]

Did anyone ever stop to think about this for even a miniscule amount of time, like 5 seconds? While the player base is mostly in the US the server itself is in Europe, which means they probably want to be paid in Euros. This being said, if +Colibri kept the donations in USD he would then not only have to make the difference between the USD value and the Euro value but paypal would charge him a rather large (around 12-20% unless using a personal account) to convert the USD to euros. This would all equate to a HUGE loss for him and would probably also mean kissing our beloved server goodbye.

Dude, I bet no one thought of this. Problem solved, close the thread imo.

[smithus]

So how do you lose money on something you never had to begin with? We donate to him so we are gifting him money. We do receive something in return for it. But had we actually purchased things from the shard then the shard would be shut down and there would be all types of litigation. So when we take money out of our pocket and send to him. There is no way he could lose anything because he never had the money to begin with. So the comment previously made about him losing money was ignorant. If there was never any money to have to pay the fees on then there would be no fees to be paid!

[Elmseeker]

Did anyone ever stop to think about this for even a miniscule amount of time, like 5 seconds? While the player base is mostly in the US the server itself is in Europe, which means they probably want to be paid in Euros. This being said, if +Colibri kept the donations in USD he would then not only have to make the difference between the USD value and the Euro value but paypal would charge him a rather large (around 12-20% unless using a personal account) to convert the USD to euros. This would all equate to a HUGE loss for him and would probably also mean kissing our beloved server goodbye.

huh? I think you should take like 5 seconds to think about it. He isn't losing any money (other then paypal fees).

ake the difference between the USD value and the Euro value but paypal

who does he owe this imaginary difference to? how is he taking a loss on people giving him money? I am confused

He's paying for the server isn't he? And on paypal the sender doesn't pay the conversion fee the reciever does.

[Adrias]

He's paying for the server isn't he? And on paypal the sender doesn't pay the conversion fee the reciever does.

I am pretty sure Anarchy's donations alone were paying for the server + extra. And as someone else pointed out above the person donating already paid for the conversion.

I still have no idea where these imaginary losses of money you keep on talking about are coming from.

I think you don't understand the core concept. He gets the same amount of money. we get less eds.

[Little Hornet]

I think if +coli raise the amount of ED he give out this will solve the issue.

[Little Hornet]

USD drop some more so if you want to relayer your weapon it's going to cost you $72.50 for 500 ED instead of the usual $50. hehe a $22.50 raise OUCHIE!!! I guess I can't afford this madness.

$1 USD = 0.69cents EUROS

[Nelapsi]

I think if +coli raise the amount of ED he give out this will solve the issue.

I honestly think this has already starting taking place, it just has not been in the spot light.

[Adrias]

I think if +coli raise the amount of ED he give out this will solve the issue.

I honestly think this has already starting taking place, it just has not been in the spot light.

http://uoex.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3300&p=20835

Starting February 1st 2011, the rewards will no longer depend on the amount of USD, but on the amount of EUR. The donor will be rewarded 10 ED for every Euro sent. This will also apply to the bless deed bonus and the 10% bonus.

The difference between the value of the Euro and the Dollar will be compensated by making ED more easily available through other means (more sold on ExEx, bigger event and other rewards). It will also allow to simplify the reward process, and eventually enabling the option to retrieve the rewards without any wait.

This was what he had posted up in January but everybody apparently completely ignored/forgot because he said he would put off the change for awhile

[aintfungalcream]

I think you don't understand the core concept. He gets the same amount of money. we get less eds.

this is exactly what ive been saying the while time
at least this is how it is for any american.
or anyone how doesent use euros in their everyday life for that matter

[Penny]

this is exactly what ive been saying the while time
at least this is how it is for any american.
or anyone how doesent use euros in their everyday life for that matter

It is the same for those who use euros. Used to be 40(ish) euros for 500 EDs, now it's 50 euros. The exact same amount of increase as for those who use USD.

So you get a little less EDs for your money. But the ingame price of EDs has gone from 60k to 50k per. (Used to be 30k per a year ago). And +Coli said he'd make the EDs more available in game (I think has happened on exex already). You win some you lose some. In the end it's all the same, just the point of balance has moved a little in a direction which I think is better.

[Stanley Cleaner]

Just came back from a break and saw the change on the donation page and made me laugh.

I think it was a wrong move for the shard. But, the new players wont see a change since they are new

To all those that say you are donating to donate. Not I! I pay to get ED to get special items in game that simple. +Coli can play with words all he wants and call it donations simple fact is if there was no ED I would donate far less and far less frequently. He does have the right to raise the prices... I mean ask for greater donations for "rewards". What I do know is I too was planing to do something and the new prices made me rethink and rather not anymore. For the simple reasons of numbers and some have posted the changes and they do hurt. What I would normally do for $200 now is close to $300!!!

My 2 cents... that would make it what $0.1372

[Leonx]

Well I donated $60 today and I'm pissed,can't even get my relayer,so maybe I will just have to make a decision .I haven't spent what some do,but I have put a good amount into shard,anyways I'm not to happy with this.