Jailed for the first time since 2009

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Miranda Ventrata wrote:I personally would like to see increased afk checks
Not only do I agree 100%, I tried to volunteer to do it. :dance
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I havent been here long enough to be afk checked, but my observation is this: If you afk check every little thing, it can cause drama. If you dont afk check at all or very little, it causes more problems. From what Ive read in the codex, this place has a nice balance to the system, automated afk checks for resource gathering are perfectly fine IMO, manual ones for farming/leveling, seem perfect to me... If the GMs decided to afk check people macroing spells or say weaving cloth, or whatever, I'd probably feel that to be a little excessive.. These rules have a purpose, if you dont want to miss an afk check, dont do anything that would make you appear afk... Have an emergency, LOG OUT. or hit hide if you can.. egg bombs work perfect for hiding when in combat. takes just a second or two to do that and pause macros.. From what I see here, the staff have their "attitudes" because they used to be soft on these rules and people abused the hell out of them for it...I dont blame them one bit.
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I have to admit that I was AFK checked once and it really confused me.
That sounds kind of stupid in hindsight, but I didn't know what was happening
and I froze.

I can't remember the question, but it was seemingly coming out of nowhere and
my first reaction was that someone was playing a trick on me.

I almost didn't answer the question because of that, but thankfully I did. Yikes.

I guess I just wanted to mention this so that the staff is aware that this can cause
some confusion.

I appreciate the work you all do to run this shard. I know it's a thankless job but most of
us appreciate it.
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Dyēus Phater wrote:If the GMs decided to afk check people macroing spells or say weaving cloth, or whatever, I'd probably feel that to be a little excessive..
There is an AFK check for people weaving cloth.
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Dementika wrote:Strangely, i didnt write a post on the forum, i didnt send a page with a fake reason to get out or to complain, i simply did my tasks and replied to her message saying i was sorry for having tried to get away with it and i was happy i was only given a short jail time instead of a ban, because really they could.

Guess what, now when im playing and i have to leave the screen, i log off, i dont take the chance because now i know better.
What kind of heresy is this? Taking responsibility for your own actions? Accepting punishment for something you did? UNHEARD OF I TELL YOU!!!!!
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I'd much rather have AFK checks on the shard than have a load of bots lvling weapons and gathering resources day and night... I've been afk checked maybe once or twice while hunting in the few years I have been here, the inconvenience is negligible indeed vs the benefit the whole shard gets from it.

I know you can say who likes grinding x,y or z, but if you don't want to do it you can usually circumvent it somehow with gold or ED.
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I've been jailed as well while not being AFK - I even missed the start of the auction ;-)

But I'm not bothering - I'd just like to confirm that it isn't easy to understand that you are being afk checked while in highly populated regions. All I saw was some kind of iceblue wall which I considered to be a graphics bug. I was crowded with like 50 mobs and didn't loot anything while waiting until my bio was ready to move on and I also didn't level a weapon.

Again, no complaints, just a remark. Might be useful to use something more visible - like colored firewalls.
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Prisma wrote:I have to admit that I was AFK checked once and it really confused me.
That sounds kind of stupid in hindsight, but I didn't know what was happening
and I froze.

I can't remember the question, but it was seemingly coming out of nowhere and
my first reaction was that someone was playing a trick on me.

I almost didn't answer the question because of that, but thankfully I did. Yikes.
lol deja vu ! I was in the orc cave checking loot on orc corpses and dunno how long id been standing in blue flames before I finally noticed the flames. it was my first afk check and had no clue what was going on and did manage to answer in time but im sure I was pretty close to get jailed by the time I did. if id been jailed in that situation im sure I would have been very angry but afk farming needs to be discouraged.
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Personally, when I'm checking a young player (meaning someone under a few months' account age who's unlikely to have seen the AFK check before), I give them additional time to reply, and/or send them a message that they need to respond. I haven't jailed a newbie for failing their first AFK check unless it' been excessive - they were completely 100% afk, didn't move or reply for 20+ minutes after, etc.

Usually giving them extra time or sending an additional message isn't even necessary, almost all of them just respond without any problem or additional effort from me- sometimes they'll page or ask in world chat what it was, but for the most part it's simple enough that people just reply.
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Hi, I actually just registered to the forum just now, so I can post on this thread.

I also don't feel the 60 seconds is enough time. Maybe 2 and half min or maybe 3 mins. When I first started playing on the server and I was in Mistvale I had an a AFK check from one of the admins. Mine was luckily more simple, "2 + 2" , it took me awhile to respond as I had no idea what was going on. I didn't see any Blue Light or any Blue Walls. If they were there I didn't notice them as I was panicking, thinking WTF is going on.

I don't think 60 Seconds is enough time to process everything going on. As for the people who say 60 seconds is either too much time or is more then enough time, well good for you but not everyone is equal to you. I also use the option of open corpses within 2 tiles of me and it sometimes covers my avatar.

I totally support the Original Poster, 60 seconds is not enough time for me.

As for these AFK Checks I agree with them, I've seen at least for sure 2 people who have been AFK Scripting. It's pretty obvious when they recall to a spot attack a single mob and then their scripting gets screwed up and they are surrounded by a bunch of mobs and are trying to recall out but can't because their concentration is being disturbed.
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Ashrael wrote:. I also use the option of open corpses within 2 tiles of me and it sometimes covers my avatar.

This is your personal choice, and the rest of the shard shouldn't be catered to how you choose to play. In order to play on uoex, and to be out hunting/farming, you need to be watching your screen at all times- a full minute is what was determined by +C and the staff that, if it takes longer than that for someone to reply, they are in violation of the codex. So, anyone opting to utilize scripts/functions that could hinder their ability to answer the afk check in time can't really use that as an excuse - it was their choice to gamble on that.
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+Nyx wrote: This is your personal choice, and the rest of the shard shouldn't be catered to how you choose to play. In order to play on uoex, and to be out hunting/farming, you need to be watching your screen at all times- a full minute is what was determined by +C and the staff that, if it takes longer than that for someone to reply, they are in violation of the codex. So, anyone opting to utilize scripts/functions that could hinder their ability to answer the afk check in time can't really use that as an excuse - it was their choice to gamble on that.
So, this is a forum and I responded with my opinion. So, you are saying my playstyle violates UOEX Server Codex. As for watching my screen, I am watching my screen to see what the loot is from killing the mobs I kill, which covers my avatar when I loot sometimes.

You are right I should just quit playing on your server then. Well then thanks it's been fun goodbye.
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Ashrael wrote:So, this is a forum and I responded with my opinion. So, you are saying my playstyle violates UOEX Server Codex. As for watching my screen, I am watching my screen to see what the loot is from killing the mobs I kill, which covers my avatar when I loot sometimes.

You are right I should just quit playing on your server then. Well then thanks it's been fun goodbye.
Yes, you responded with your opinion, and I was educating you why the codex is the way it is, and that your choice to have the auto-open-corpses function enabled (and leaving the gumps over your character for 1 minute or more, knowing you could be missing an afk check) wouldn't give you a pass should you fail an AFK check. It's your decision if you want to have that on or not, but having it on doesn't excuse anyone from failing a check. If you think this somehow means you can't/shouldn't play here, then that's your prerogative, of course, however that is not what I said.
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Ashrael wrote:
+Nyx wrote: This is your personal choice, and the rest of the shard shouldn't be catered to how you choose to play. In order to play on uoex, and to be out hunting/farming, you need to be watching your screen at all times- a full minute is what was determined by +C and the staff that, if it takes longer than that for someone to reply, they are in violation of the codex. So, anyone opting to utilize scripts/functions that could hinder their ability to answer the afk check in time can't really use that as an excuse - it was their choice to gamble on that.
So, this is a forum and I responded with my opinion. So, you are saying my playstyle violates UOEX Server Codex. As for watching my screen, I am watching my screen to see what the loot is from killing the mobs I kill, which covers my avatar when I loot sometimes.

You are right I should just quit playing on your server then. Well then thanks it's been fun goodbye.
Firstly, she is saying you must alter your play style to conform to the rules, rather than us re-writing the rules to conform to your play style.

Secondly, if you actually READ her post, opening the corpses is a personal choice, but not answering the afk check within 60 seconds is in violation of the codex. Nobody said opening corpses was against the rules. Opening corpses which block your sight, and could cause you to fail the check is your *choice*. Please don't blame us because you made a conscious decision that affects your ability to answer the check.
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This is the Codex Link correct ? http://uoex.net/codex

I might be blind but at no point in the Codex does it say "if it takes longer than that for someone to reply, they are in violation of the codex"

Maybe you should revise the codex to include : http://uoex.net/codex/penalties and http://uoex.net/wiki/AFK

I loved your UOEX Server. Sadly, I made a single post where I support AFK checks but don't feel 60 seconds is enough time and I personally feel like I am being attacked because of my post.
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