Titans Hammer

[UO_DK]

Where do I get this? I started looking around, and I saw that perhaps it no longer 'spawns' on the table.. but it is in doom chests or something?

The wiki has nothing on this (that I could find), doing a search in the forums didn't produce any clear results, nor did a google search. I did see a post from like 2013 from +C mentioning something about the new doom rares system, but again.. no real info on what that is anywhere that I can find.

So do these spawn in chests? Do you have to catch the respawn of the chest or does everyone get a shot? Does everyone have a chance to get one? Just looking for some information. Or am I wrong and it just spawns on the table by the guardians?

[+Colibri]

We've had a problem with some players being AFK at the regular location where Titan's hammer spawns, and so this was made as a solution.

In the doom dungeon (not gauntlet, but the regular/main dungeon) you will find three locations with special chests. These locations each have a group of liches spawned, then there's a few metal chests - one of the chests is the real deal, the others are just decorative. You have to kill the liches to obtain a key. After you get the key, simply doubleclicking the chest won't work - you have to use a spell to open it. (i'll let you figure this out ).
As you open the chest, you will see one or a few colored boxes. Each of these boxes can be opened by dropping one of the rare gems (blue diamod, fire ruby...) onto it, and it will unlock. Once unlocked, you have I think something like 10 minutes to be able to steal the item inside. It's not just the titan's hammer that spawns here, but a few other items. From what I recall, all doom stealables at regular locations have a reduced spawn rate by half, and the other half spawns in these chests - which makes the overall drop rate of these items the same.

[Johnny Warren]

In the doom dungeon (not gauntlet, but the regular/main dungeon) you will find three locations with special chests. These locations each have a group of liches spawned, then there's a few metal chests - one of the chests is the real deal, the others are just decorative. You have to kill the liches to obtain a key.

One of the groups of liches is uh... pretty strong...

[UO_DK]

We've had a problem with some players being AFK at the regular location where Titan's hammer spawns, and so this was made as a solution.

In the doom dungeon (not gauntlet, but the regular/main dungeon) you will find three locations with special chests. These locations each have a group of liches spawned, then there's a few metal chests - one of the chests is the real deal, the others are just decorative. You have to kill the liches to obtain a key. After you get the key, simply doubleclicking the chest won't work - you have to use a spell to open it. (i'll let you figure this out ).
As you open the chest, you will see one or a few colored boxes. Each of these boxes can be opened by dropping one of the rare gems (blue diamod, fire ruby...) onto it, and it will unlock. Once unlocked, you have I think something like 10 minutes to be able to steal the item inside. It's not just the titan's hammer that spawns here, but a few other items. From what I recall, all doom stealables at regular locations have a reduced spawn rate by half, and the other half spawns in these chests - which makes the overall drop rate of these items the same.

Hey +C thanks for the response. So, the titans hammer can be in any one of these chests, but you need to carry around some of the rare gems to open the locked chests inside (great re-use of rare gems by the way). You mention the spawnable stealables have a 1/2 respawn rate. So how do I tell if someone else alredy go in the chest? Is the chest itself instanced? Does it re-roll loot when you drop the gem on the locked bag/box inside? If someone already looted it, do I have to wait X min for the boxes to respawn? Is their a cooldown between TH drops or is it just a low % chance on anyone that opens the boxes? Cant he TH drop from any of the 3 sets of boxes?

Sorry if it's a lot just curious on the specifics.

[Grundick]

Is their a cooldown between TH drops or is it just a low % chance on anyone that opens the boxes?

This is very very very interesting question.

[Nick]

From what I have been told it spawns very consistently 30 days after the last one was stolen, so if you know when that was you can go back to the hour of the last steal and farm the chests and get it again. From what I'm tracking you could loot the chest 1 million times days 1-29 and not get a one... I could be wrong... but I don't think I am...

[Melkor]

From what I have been told it spawns very consistently 30 days after the last one was stolen, so if you know when that was you can go back to the hour of the last steal and farm the chests and get it again. From what I'm tracking you could loot the chest 1 million times days 1-29 and not get a one... I could be wrong... but I don't think I am...

That’s too bad, that really diminishes my interest in trying to get one. It’s fantastic for the person who found it last but I would like to see it be more random.

[Nick]

I agree melkor

Seeing as its a 2k ed item (120kk ish gold) I personally think it should be moved to like sigial or something like that as a reward at the end of a long quest line (maybe a continuation of the quest that's already there just a higher level... maybe you need to turn in 5 of the current main item reward along with as "sample" from a solo kill of, Proxy, mel, dread horn (all peerless bosses maybe) as well as Kronos, icy dragon, fire dragon and the big red dragon from north of Mel. that is only repatable every 6 moths or so, but is not "account bound".

That may be a lot of work to code though... maybe a true random spawn at any point in those chest at any point over a given 30day period would be easier to implement. I don't really even do the chest because I pretty much know that im not going to get the hammer because whoever knows the timer is gona get the next hammer anyway and all id be doing is wasting time.

Just my 2 cents.

[Muolke]

I agree melkor

Seeing as its a 2k ed item (120kk ish gold) I personally think it should be moved to like sigial or something like that as a reward at the end of a long quest line (maybe a continuation of the quest that's already there just a higher level... maybe you need to turn in 5 of the current main item reward along with as "sample" from a solo kill of, Proxy, mel, dread horn (all peerless bosses maybe) as well as Kronos, icy dragon, fire dragon and the big red dragon from north of Mel. that is only repatable every 6 moths or so, but is not "account bound".

That may be a lot of work to code though... maybe a true random spawn at any point in those chest at any point over a given 30day period would be easier to implement. I don't really even do the chest because I pretty much know that im not going to get the hammer because whoever knows the timer is gona get the next hammer anyway and all id be doing is wasting time.

Just my 2 cents.

I still think there should be a stone where you can trade in a bunch of other doom artifacts for a Titan Hammer.

Something like this:

Maybe 5 of each doom gauntlet drop for 1 Titan Hammer? The value would be around 70-80 mil gold based off of todays prices but that would increase as there would be much more demand. But at least there would be a way to get a Titan Hammer other than an auction or once a month in Doom.

[Possum12]

I still think there should be a stone where you can trade in a bunch of other doom artifacts for a Titan Hammer.

Something like this:

Maybe 5 of each doom gauntlet drop for 1 Titan Hammer? The value would be around 70-80 mil gold based off of todays prices but that would increase as there would be much more demand. But at least there would be a way to get a Titan Hammer other than an auction or once a month in Doom.

I like this concept - make it fairly long and time consuming process(not just things you can buy off exex or vendors)
Somehow add things that are bind on pickup making the player at least do some of the hard yards.
Lets say add things from the BoD crafting sytem etc to make that part of game more appealing/useful.
For example - when a completed BoD is handed get "X" special acct bound tokens depending on type/size of BoD handed in.
So say need 100k of these special tokens plus along with whatever else.

Types of things needed would be just really up to the imagination & coding time of course.

Or it could be just another item that could be bought from Trinsic ED room for "Y" 1000's of ED?

The gathering method would so much more fun in my personal opinion, though both have some merits I guess.

[Muolke]

I still think there should be a stone where you can trade in a bunch of other doom artifacts for a Titan Hammer.

Something like this:

Maybe 5 of each doom gauntlet drop for 1 Titan Hammer? The value would be around 70-80 mil gold based off of todays prices but that would increase as there would be much more demand. But at least there would be a way to get a Titan Hammer other than an auction or once a month in Doom.

I like this concept - make it fairly long and time consuming process(not just things you can buy off exex or vendors)
Somehow add things that are bind on pickup making the player at least do some of the hard yards.
Lets say add things from the BoD crafting sytem etc to make that part of game more appealing/useful.
For example - when a completed BoD is handed get "X" special acct bound tokens depending on type/size of BoD handed in.
So say need 100k of these special tokens plus along with whatever else.

Types of things needed would be just really up to the imagination & coding time of course.

Or it could be just another item that could be bought from Trinsic ED room for "Y" 1000's of ED?

The gathering method would so much more fun in my personal opinion, though both have some merits I guess.

I would be ok with either but I prefer your idea of having account bound items therefore forcing you to actually play the game.

You could make it quite simple by making a currency parallel to tokens which can't be sold or traded. Get the same amount of this special currency as you do tokens and make it so you need to get 10 million of this special currency to trade-in for a special item required on top of everything else.

The key here is to make the Titan Hammer attainable with gameplay instead of just 1 person getting lucky once a month.

[acolyte]

The key here is to make the Titan Hammer attainable with gameplay instead of just 1 person getting lucky once a month.

as a person with 0 titan's hammers, i'm not a fan of them making them any easier to obtain. the artificial supply limit of 1 per month keeps them valuable. they are special because they are so exclusive. anything that can be farmed without a limit will be farmed to oblivion

the current system definitely isn't great either though, there could be a better way to randomly distribute 1 monthly titan that also supports the economy and newer players. maybe a monthly destash raffle where tickets are purchased with doom or paragon artifacts. this would make those "useless" artifacts more valuable and when newer players get them they could sell them for decent prices.

[Johnny Warren]

I've gathered enough data over the years to know it is not exactly 30 days. So nobody can have it totally on lock down. Secondly, recall that +c has said that luck affects these chests and the pouches inside them. So a player needs to be within the respawn time for the TH, then have their luck + the RNG (RL luck) to all occur at once for the hammer to actually spawn.

So keep checking, the only time you guarantee you won't pull one is when you decide to stop checking. Buy more luck and check more frequently if you want to get one. If the randomness/difficulty frustrates you too much, farm gold and save and just buy them, they do still sell even though it is rather rare.

I think it should be kept as is. I like having the odd one pop up on raffle stones and at auctions but think it would detract from the value of the TH to have them available via ED stone or other alt currencies/trade systems. There needs to be some top end and hard to obtain items for endgame players to chase. Plus as it stands it is easily obtainable to a new player (using pets) so in terms of being fair it is working. If you made a trade system suddenly it further advantages those who can grind quickly and the end game vets pull further ahead of the rest of the field.

$0.02 from a player who has only pulled 2 using this current system.

[Muolke]

The key here is to make the Titan Hammer attainable with gameplay instead of just 1 person getting lucky once a month.

as a person with 0 titan's hammers, i'm not a fan of them making them any easier to obtain. the artificial supply limit of 1 per month keeps them valuable. they are special because they are so exclusive. anything that can be farmed without a limit will be farmed to oblivion

the current system definitely isn't great either though, there could be a better way to randomly distribute 1 monthly titan that also supports the economy and newer players. maybe a monthly destash raffle where tickets are purchased with doom or paragon artifacts. this would make those "useless" artifacts more valuable and when newer players get them they could sell them for decent prices.

Not "easier" to obtain. Simply obtainable thru gameplay that doesn't involved being at the right place and at the right time.