+10 Level Deeds

[MagicUser]

There was a recent question by John Warren about +10 level deeds. I was not real sure about this so I thought I would make a forum post. It will also make it easier to see the response that I got previously.

I should preface that I am talking about looted weapons (+5 per level) not crafted weapons (+3 per level).

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The response is fairly disjointed. I do have some concerns about it. Leaving grammar aside, I am fairly certain that 545 is the cap from +10 deeds.

Personal questions that arose from +Arden's response:

• Is 545 or is 550 the cap? If it is 550, then what are the edge cases for the deed usage to ensure that happens?
• It looks like the deed rounds the lvl to the nearest 10s place? Or does it actually give +10 levels with a cap of 100.
• +10 level deeds add 10 levels for each application right? It sounded like he was saying you don't apply them till the weapon is at lvl 90 and that it only increased the level by 1 every time.
• The user only sees the bonus points after lvl 90? If so, when?

Some quick maths:
1->100 leaves you at 495 points. - No deeds is 495 points at lvl 100.
10 * 10 = 100 (possible as only 1 point is required). - 10 deeds is the most that can be applied.
10 * 5 = 50 (+5 points per deed). - +50 points for 10 deeds.
495 + 50 = 545. - 545 points is the max that can be achieved with +10 deeds.

The normal route would be:

• 1 -> 11
• 11 -> 21
• 21 -> 31
• 31 -> 41
• 41 -> 51
• 51 -> 61
• 61 -> 71
• 71 -> 81
• 81 -> 91
• 91 -> 100

It sounds like you can wait all the way up till the 9th level though. So you could still apply a deed when the weapon was level 99 because there was at least 1 level left.

Meaning the following might work?:

• 9 -> 19
• 19 -> 29
• 29 -> 39
• 39 -> 49
• 49 -> 59
• 59 -> 69
• 69 -> 79
• 79 -> 89
• 89 -> 99
• 99 -> 100

If true, then the above listing would show the last possible time to apply a deed for that segment. For example if you had a lvl 30 weapon, you miss out on 3 deeds (7 deed cap). This is because it is after the lvl 29; the first, second, and last segments are no longer available either due to being past it or not being +1 available.

If anyone has better information either from testing or the admins, it would be great if it could be posted. It would be even better if one of the Admins finds time to respond. I completely understand if no one has any information, I just wanted to put down what I had in the hopes that someone else had more.

[Johnny Warren]

Thanks for making the post Paroxys, I would like to know how it works (basically to try and save 100ED).

I had heard off someone that you only need to apply 9 deeds to get max points. Manually level it from 1-10 (50 points) then apply 9 deeds (55 each: 9x55 = 495) which totals 545 points, which I believe is max.

Would just like confirmation on how it works. Many thanks to anyone with the info.

JW

[MagicUser]

Thanks for making the post Paroxys, I would like to know how it works (basically to try and save 100ED).

I had heard off someone that you only need to apply 9 deeds to get max points. Manually level it from 1-10 (50 points) then apply 9 deeds (55 each: 9x55 = 495) which totals 545 points, which I believe is max.

Would just like confirmation on how it works. Many thanks to anyone with the info.

JW

Perhaps there is something else going on, but I did want to point out that manual leveling from 1 to 10 is actually 45 (9*5) points as putting a level deed on a weapon makes it a level 1 weapon, but does not give any points for doing so. That would make it 9*55 + 45 = 540, if you can indeed put 9 deeds on the weapon.

Feel free to correct me if I made an error in my thinking somewhere.

[Muolke]

You normally would get 495 points from leveling a weapon. That is because the weapon starts off at level 1 and you don't get points to start with. So you're only hitting 99 new levels to get to 100. That's 5 point per level which equals 495 points.

The +10 level deeds add 5 additional points per deed.

The first deed levels your weapon to level 10, then 20, and so forth to 100. So you use 10 level deeds which add another 50 points total.

This brings your total spending points to 545.

[Johnny Warren]

If each +10 level deed adds an extra 5 points, why is the total not 550? 55x10? Is it because one of the deeds is really only adding 50 (because it's going up only 9 levels, not 10)?

This still doesn't solve the original problem, can u get max points using only 9 deeds, not 10? Or would you only get 540 points if you use 9 deeds?

[Muolke]

If each +10 level deed adds an extra 5 points, why is the total not 550? 55x10? Is it because one of the deeds is really only adding 50 (because it's going up only 9 levels, not 10)?

This still doesn't solve the original problem, can u get max points using only 9 deeds, not 10? Or would you only get 540 points if you use 9 deeds?

Because the total without deeds is 495 points...not 500. The weapon starts at level 1...not level 0. You're only getting points from level 2 to 100. That's why with 10 level deeds you get 545 and not 550.

[acolyte]

This still doesn't solve the original problem, can u get max points using only 9 deeds, not 10? Or would you only get 540 points if you use 9 deeds?

0 deeds 495 points
1 deed 500 points
2 deeds 505 points
3 deeds 510 points
4 deeds 515 points
5 deeds 520 points
6 deeds 525 points
7 deeds 530 points
8 deeds 535 points
9 deeds 540 points
10 deeds 545 points

[Johnny Warren]

Yeah, I think you are right Acolyte and explained it most simply. I just leveled a fresh weapon to lvl 10 and it has 45 spend points, if I then applied 9 deeds at 55 points per deed it would finish with 540 points, as you stated.

[Muolke]

I heard Hit Dispel on an Ancient Composite Bow works wonders.

[Johnny Warren]

I heard Hit Dispel on an Ancient Composite Bow works wonders.

Already added. I've heard that dispel will be heavily used in the new content for 2021. I've added it up to 60% just to be sure. And added HLA just to make sure I don't get hit too much while fighting.

[+Colibri]

I think initially the deeds were intended to be universal, and to add +5 points when you pass a round number (10, 20, 30..). Since it's a +10, and the math in the edge cases checks out, it always gives 5 points per level, plus an additional 5 points.

So, applying the +10 deeds from a completly unleveled weapon:
1->11, 11->21-> ... 81->91, 91->100. The initial 9 deeds add 55 points each [33 for crafted], taking it up to 495 [297]. The 10th deed adds 9 levels, with a bonus of 5 points [or 3 for crafted], so that's 9*5 + 5 = 50 points, taking it up to 545 points [or 9*3+3 = 30 points, taking it up to 327 for crafted].

You can also level it up to 9, and then apply 10 deeds, and you get the same result. But it's just extra manual leveling with no additional gain.

In the example of first leveling the weapon to 30, you would then be able to apply the +10 deed 7 times, which would add 7*5 bonus points. That would mean 495 + 35, you would get a weapon with 530 points.

In the example of first leveling the weapon to 10, you would be able to apply the +10 deed 9 times. That would make the weapon have 45 bonus points, on top of the 495 regular = 540 total.

[Ranametalera]

The way i used to use this deeds its to help me to finish a weak weapon, where going from 90 to 100 can take days and days and be a nightmare!

[Johnny Warren]

Thanks for the info +C. I can confirm it is correct.