First Relayer Advice

[Alibaster]

So I’m ready to do my first relayer and I want some advice. I understand that Titan’s Hammer is the best option but it’s a little out of my price range. Bone crusher is a strong option and it would be a stretch to buy it and spend the ED to relayer it too. What is the third choice and why? I mainly want to boost my HP. I want to be able to take a hit and survive long enough for my insta-heal to kick in. What would you start with and why?

[Zanzi]

I would say to use an SOP or a weapon with hci and resist as base. But really if you plan on being here for a long time might as well start building relayers using BCs. I personally regretted not starting with BCs

[culichi]

i went with a 4x14 resist wep on my first two relayers which gave me a nice buffer as i upgraded other pieces of gear. read the uoex.net section on relayers so you have a full understanding of what abilities are available to add onto relayers and their caps. there are also a couple of spreadsheets on forums that help you plan out all your future relayers.
third option is buy used relayers there are plenty of them floating around and its a buyers market right now. before buying something incredibly cheap make sure to get some opinions on it there are tons of terrible relayers on the server. you could probably buy two good relayers for same cost as making a fesh bc relayer.

[Alibaster]

I would say to use an SOP or a weapon with hci and resist as base. But really if you plan on being here for a long time might as well start building relayers using BCs. I personally regretted not starting with BCs

A BC is really tempting. It would just knock out 75% of my ED just to buy it and relayer it. I was thinking of going the route of using +10 leveling deeds but that gets really expensive and I’m not sure it’s worth the ED for the extra 50 points

[Muolke]

I would say to use an SOP or a weapon with hci and resist as base. But really if you plan on being here for a long time might as well start building relayers using BCs. I personally regretted not starting with BCs

A BC is really tempting. It would just knock out 75% of my ED just to buy it and relayer it. I was thinking of going the route of using +10 leveling deeds but that gets really expensive and I’m not sure it’s worth the ED for the extra 50 points

You don't use leveling deeds on a relayer. The only thing you should ever use leveling deeds on is your end-game weapon. Ok well I did use leveling deeds on my Ancient Titan Hammer totem slot but that's a very unique item that only a handful of active players have so hopefully you get the point.

Buy a BC NPS from one of the vendors. You should be able to get one for about 400-420ed then add in 500ed to relayer it and buy an item bless deed from the token stone in Trinsic. You can save yourself about 300ed by getting an SoP instead but for most people a BC relayer is an end-game relayer so why buy an SoP now and then spend the money to upgrade to a BC relayer later? Just go directly with a BC. If you want to save about 100ed you can also just buy a BC for 5-6 mil gold and level it yourself.

Don't forget to put RPD and SDI on everything you possibly can.

[Wil]

Swords of Prosperity make a decent first relayer. You can generally buy one fully leveled no-points-spent for 100-200ED. Make sure you read the wiki about the attributes that should be on EVERY relayer. You don't want to have to throw away a perfectly good relayer because you missed one of them. Don't use points on the leveled weapon for anything that you can buy a deed for from the ED store. Don't use points for Damage Increase; you can get that with a sharpening blade.

Beyond that:

Kilt slot for the first relayer. Nothing really good fits the kilt slot so it won't harm you. Shirt slot for the second relayer.

On your first relayer, in addition to the wiki stuff, I suggest: all three regens and 20 LRC,

Don't burn your time leveling the first weapon you relayer. Your stats aren't good enough; it'll take you -forever-. Wait until you have 5 or 6 realyers in your suit before you try to level stuff to 100.

[beanerman]

For my first 2 relayers I went with a blaze of death just due to it being easy to level and a darkend sky. I also regret not doing BC's from the start but I ended up replacing 5 relayers. When you first start doing relayers just make sure u read the wiki on what stats are best to have and then just slowly work all stats to max

[Wil]

I also regret not doing BC's from the start

I get wanting to relayer Titan's Hammers (+7 STR) and Ancient Titan's Hammers (+12 STR) but do you really get enough benefit from a bone crusher (+2 STR) to be worth hundreds more ED? You're paying 300-400 more ED just to get the bone crusher and then, compared to the Swords of Prosperity you're also buying 200ED more luck deeds to give your relayer that 400 luck.

[Alibaster]

Thank you everyone for the great advice. I did a few things for my first relayer. I bought a leveled BC with NPS that I am now taking my time researching on the best way to spend the points. I also picked up a non-leveled hatchet with 4x14 resistances which I will take time leveling up. I already have it up to level 8 after about an hour in Doom. I also have a non-leveled SOP I got during the IDOC event. That will be my next leveling project. I think the three combinations will get me a solid start. I just need to spend the time grinding it out and getting gold/ED to buy the 2nd and 3rd relayer deeds. Maybe a donation around Christmas to get a little boost will help.

Just to run it buy you all. this is where I plan on spending my points. DO I have to spend all the points before relayering or can I most of them now and invest the rest after relayering?

Must haves:
Dex & Intelligence boost
Hm Stamina and Mana regen
RPD max
SDI max

I'm on the fence about potions. I don't use them currently but maybe I should.

Any other "must haves" I'm missing?

[culichi]

enhance potions is great IF you know you will really be using potions most of us dont because its a pain in the butt and we arnt good scripters. it is an enormous benefit in a lot of situations im just a lazy player who cant be bothered to use potions.

must haves because they are useful and have no cap:
reflect physical damage 15/15 - 45 points
spell damage increase 20/20 - 40 points
strength 8/8 - 32 points
hit points 8/8 - 24 points
dexterity 8/8 - 32 points
stamina 8/8 - 24 points
intelligence 8/8 - 32 points
mana 8/8 - 24 points

total points- 253

those are the universally agreed on must haves for every relayer the rest youre just gonna have to figure it out for yourself. there is a lot of debate on what to put on a relayer so dont just take the first opinions you hear as gospel.

ps- yes you can use points after the relayering

[Alibaster]

enhance potions is great IF you know you will really be using potions most of us dont because its a pain in the butt and we arnt good scripters. it is an enormous benefit in a lot of situations im just a lazy player who cant be bothered to use potions.

must haves because they are useful and have no cap:
reflect physical damage 15/15 - 45 points
spell damage increase 20/20 - 40 points
strength 8/8 - 32 points
hit points 8/8 - 24 points
dexterity 8/8 - 32 points
stamina 8/8 - 24 points
intelligence 8/8 - 32 points
mana 8/8 - 24 points

total points- 253

those are the universally agreed on must haves for every relayer the rest youre just gonna have to figure it out for yourself. there is a lot of debate on what to put on a relayer so dont just take the first opinions you hear as gospel.

ps- yes you can use points after the relayering

Thanks Culichi. I think I'll do the must haves and do the rest after relayering. I'm not a good scripter either so I'll hold off on potions for now. Since the BC has a 10 strength, I'll have even more points to play with.

[Wil]

Enhance potions on every relayer lets you boost your HP by more than 100 by quaffing a potion. That's a lot of HP when battling some of the one-hit wonders at the end game and you'll cap out everything else long before you complete a relayer suit.

https://www.uoex.net/wiki/Relayer#Getting_Started