Recent patch - weapon leveling

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Kile Morgan wrote:Now to go back to the op. Fingers points out that he was placed in jail for three days with no reason given. If this is true I have a problem with it. Is it the current position of Admin that any player may be placed in jail at any time or for any reason with no explanation given for punishment?
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This is not true whatsoever. We do not jail or ban anyone without reason and that reason is thuroughly made clear. Because certain information is kept private, I won't disclose to you exactly why he was jailed. However, I will assure you that there was a reason.

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Like I said before, if you think that was an attack, you don't really know me after all. An attack would be the post I was going to make before I bothered to log in and test some things before I did originally post.

I do have some idea of how much code there is, I have a copy of the server code as it was from a little over a year ago. It's probably been a year since I've opened it or even given it more then a seconds thought. But that's precisely why I said I'd rather not see things broken(when they are currently working) until someone has time to fix it.

On another day I might have said some of the things I had to say in a different way but I had the guts to say it and I've got the guts to stand by it. The points I made were solid, regardless of how I said them.

As far as my staff application goes, I never sent one in, that should tell you how much I care whether that ever happens again or not.

It gets old seeing everyone take a hit because 1-2 people decided to screw it up for the rest of us. Once upon a time breeding was basically restriction free, and everything was right in the world. Then people decided selling mules would be a great idea. Welcome to the world of restrictions.

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+Rayne, with all due respect, if that isn't true, that makes me a liar; wich I am not.

+Colibri handled this whole situation from beginning to end (decision, jailing, messages and release) and I am sure he can confirm:

1. That he jailed me not telling me why, but that I had 3 days to figure it out.
2. That I was informed of what was held against me by a third party who was friend with me.
3. That It took 2 days of me pm'ing +Colibri for him to go actually find the logs of the pm that got me in trouble.
4. That he released me after that (a little less then two days).
5. That he did not agree with my intervention in that pm, but did apologize by telling me he is only human.

As I previously said though, this is far behind, and it was a mistake from my part to bring it back on the table. Lookslike I am only human too :displeased:
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You are correct that we are all human. You are correct that this has been put behind us. We will not discuss it here either, as it is a private matter. It is over and we will not hold onto that. It is possible that I am thinking of another time that you were jailed, but nevertheless it is in the past and you are correct about that.

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(To come back to started topic)

*Holds close to his leveled swords of prosperity...Already bought 115 tactics/anatomy/swords and archery today waiting to see turn of events*

Will I become full fledged fighter/archer ?? :shock:

There was a lot to read, and I lost a bit track to be honest.. But I did saw at one point mention of 1/6 xp by killing with a spell ?
Cause ya, the swords aren't made for melee really...So if that's in effect or a way to please people, I can live with it.
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Re: Recent patch..

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So, scavenging for best ideas, here's what I got:

"I just tested my 50% fireball weapon. 0 experience when the fireball does the last hit, wich happens half the time:-("
polar bear's - needs fixing

"Looks like area effect counts, but its hard to say as i have alot of reflectphysical, so im not sure i got the experience points from killing the monster with area or with reflect"
polar bear's - needs comprovation

"create new higher spawn rates on some creatures like in bushido dojo, (to help this lvl wep issue)"
Akira's - guess now we will need more monsters with the increased demmand

"at least 50% of the damage needs to be done by the weapon directly"
Colibri's - fair and square

"token count per xp would be a tidy way to do so"
Black Death's - great idea, can use an already existing measure system
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Ty bubba for sorting it out so nicely :)
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Yup I agree, that pretty much sums it up.. Although there's one small grip I still have..

People who leveled their weps before this change don't get penalized (well in a way yes, if we look at the case of a hit fireball wep) and keep their levels, and new people like me will just take 3-4 times more time to level one...

So here's maybe 2 possible fixes ideas (not good at coding so don't know exactly how it would work out..but it's ideas..)

1 - A fix to allow the hit fireballs/lighting or whatnot to still count towards wep exp (the easier fix I think)

2 - "Reimbourse" levels to people who have that on their wep ... Exemple : Hit fireball 50% gone to almost waste ? (Either take off the mod and drop the levels accordingly (in that case, 30 levels I think), or give option (player service ?) to remove the undesired mod and get back points..

Like +Coli said (but not quoting word per word, sorry..) : At least 50% of damage would have to be done by direct hit.
I'm good in math, but woudnt that be a bit hard to judge if the beast heals/regens ??..

I always was mage, always will be, it's my instinct... To me, going head to head with a Bally is like going in boxers in a snowstorm/hailstorm.. Maybe achievable, but will leave me seriously bruised... Because of my mage template, im 110/60/160 or so..see what I mean ?

I love the shard A LOT and to me there's A LOT more good stuff then minor grips, it's just the kind of change that makes me play just a tad less till I know whats going on/decided/approved (just a bit more in forums or portal in fact)

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Re: Recent patch..

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1. Yes that's what i'm actually testing at the moment. Final stages...
2. Well how do we know that the 50% fire area wasnt on there when the weapon was crafted?



Well everything that bubba summed up is in testing phase, i might even get a restart today in a couple of hours.
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+Colibri wrote:i might even get a restart today in a couple of hours.
[Fingers crossed]
Please get the quivers working Please get the quivers working Please get the quivers working Please get the quivers working Please get the quivers working Please get the quivers working Please get the quivers working Please get the quivers working
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+Colibri wrote: Well everything that bubba summed up is in testing phase, i might even get a restart today in a couple of hours.

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well if its stuck on mele to level maby it would be nice to give us something to kill cuz the spawn speeds of almost everything is balanced before but now i think guna need to be upped so we have stuff to fight i spend 30 minuts to kill 4 ballys in 1 dungon hehe or can clear the entire dungeon of destard before anything respawns (yes entire dungeon all 3 levels)
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