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Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:01 pm
by Jax2
This is more out of curiosity than anything because I'm slightly confused as to how this part of the game works.

Last week, before I got some new "toys" I had 259 hit points. When I would use my gg pick to go platinum mining, without fail I would be killed by the plat elementals instantly, even though I had my pets out and guarding me.

Now that I am at 303 HP, I never die - not once so far after probably 100+ elementals. The most damage I've taken from being hit now about 125 - 150 HP, or about half of what I am at.

So my question is, why, if getting hit now only takes 150hp, was I being 1 hit killed with 259 hp?

And just to add, no, my resistances didn't really change much, maybe +2 or 3 on poison and cold resist. rest were already at 70.

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:10 pm
by Alex
I'm not a crafter, but I am assuming fell and tram elementals are different, so you are comparing fell with fell or tram with tram.

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:36 pm
by Jax2
Tram before and after.

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:38 pm
by Alex
Only other thing I could think of is resistances, but 2/3 points I dont think would make such a big difference. Sorry, can't help ya out here.

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:01 pm
by Sir Blood
You can get hit on occasion by 2 simultaneous attacks from elementals...

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:05 pm
by rainydays
In order to avoid being killed, try Mirror Image while guarded by a pet :-)

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:16 pm
by Annachie
and the samurai spell confidence.

Oh, and be ready to run when that first hit misses.


Actually, are you having any lag trouble? Could it be you were really being hit twice but lag was causing them to appear to you at the same time? I get that one.

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:48 pm
by Jax2
I don't get killed at all now - that's what I'm saying - upping my hitpoints by 30 has made it so I don't die - which is why I'm confused lol. If they can kill me in 1 hit with 260 hp more or less, seems like they'd do that much damage still when I have 300 hit points. Know what I mean? I don't need to run or anything anymore.

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:45 pm
by Miranda Ventrata
Elementals as I understand can double strike, so perhaps 150 normal damage and 300 DS, which is a one shot at 260 hp

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:57 pm
by Jax2
That could very well be - I admit, I'm not sure exactly how much damage is being done to me, it does look like perhaps I'm only being taken down to about half my hit points (150 or so), but with how fast blazin healer heals me up, perhaps it is taking me down further and it's just quick to notice.

Either way, it's nice to be able to farm them again - those 40 hit points made all the difference :)

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:00 pm
by Yoda
I can perhaps shed a little light on this

instaheal + healing script (factored against) refresh rate of character status gump window = APPEARS to take less damage

but yes generally speaking there is a point where the garg tool elementals stop killing you.. cheer up

you can still be one hit killed by
Crystal Hydra
The Fire Ruby Dragon
Flesh Eating Dragon
Chief Paroxysmus
Icy Wyrm
among other things so take heart plenty of ways to die still at your level

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:12 pm
by Miranda Ventrata
yup i have 335 hp, plus bless and str pot with lots of enhance potion, even with 220 dex, i still get ripped apart on occasion.

Re: Question on game mechanics and mobs that 1 hit kill

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:21 am
by +Veritas
I would look into the Defense Mastery weapon ability.

+V