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Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:49 pm
by fixxer1963
Is there still the possibility that the Wax Refiners will get the option to level them beyond lvl 20?

Re: Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:13 pm
by +Colibri
I think level 20 has something to do with the way they're set up, so that the various bonuses are achievable to sane levels (not all maxed out with zero damage & tons of bonus product). At the time of planning, level 20 was set as the maximum without intention to increase it.

Re: Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:18 am
by zerobyte
What is the use of a Wax Refiner? Which difference between Lvl 0 and Lvl 20?
How to increase it's lvl? Which difference with the Wax Pot?

Sorry for noob question, just interested :)

Re: Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:16 am
by Wil
Beekeeping is one of the ways to earn gold on the shard. See the wiki. The wax refiner processes raw wax collected from the bees into refined wax you can use to make things like pet leashes. As you use it, it gains levels which allow you to make improvements so it works better.

Re: Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:05 am
by zerobyte
Wil wrote:Beekeeping is one of the ways to earn gold on the shard. See the wiki. The wax refiner processes raw wax collected from the bees into refined wax you can use to make things like pet leashes. As you use it, it gains levels which allow you to make improvements so it works better.
i know about beekeeping.
I didn't know of Wax Refiner and difference between it and the Wax Pot.
I was also asking info about which difference there's between a Wax Refiner Lvl 0 and a Wax Refiner Lvl 20.
Thanks for help! :)

Re: Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:53 am
by galrom
Wil wrote:Beekeeping is one of the ways to earn gold on the shard. See the wiki. The wax refiner processes raw wax collected from the bees into refined wax you can use to make things like pet leashes. As you use it, it gains levels which allow you to make improvements so it works better.
I've used only the wax pot. Does it worth change to the refiner system?

BTW, anyone know how to make a macro for beekeeping?

thx

Re: Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:42 am
by fixxer1963
+Colibri wrote:I think level 20 has something to do with the way they're set up, so that the various bonuses are achievable to sane levels (not all maxed out with zero damage & tons of bonus product). At the time of planning, level 20 was set as the maximum without intention to increase it.
Thanks +C for the reply.

Re: Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:46 am
by fixxer1963
galrom wrote:
Wil wrote:Beekeeping is one of the ways to earn gold on the shard. See the wiki. The wax refiner processes raw wax collected from the bees into refined wax you can use to make things like pet leashes. As you use it, it gains levels which allow you to make improvements so it works better.
I've used only the wax pot. Does it worth change to the refiner system?

BTW, anyone know how to make a macro for beekeeping?

thx
With the Refiner you can upgrade in four different ways. I went with 20% Extra Resource Chance.

As for macros... +C has gone to great effort to prevent it with the bees. Other than harvesting.

Re: Wax Refiner Upgrades

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:40 am
by UO_DK
+Colibri wrote:I think level 20 has something to do with the way they're set up, so that the various bonuses are achievable to sane levels (not all maxed out with zero damage & tons of bonus product). At the time of planning, level 20 was set as the maximum without intention to increase it.
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Sorry to necro this, but I feel like this is not a great solution. The obvious choice is the extra product. If you wanted it faster, then you do it yourself. Adding durability or making it not take as much durability damage saves you 5k for a repair kit every 2 weeks, OR you can get 20% more gold.

I am not advocating to be able to get 100% chance at extra product. My initial thought was "What if each skill could be leveled to level 20?" but that really puts yu back where we are now, where the machine is maxed out and it simply last a little longer. So what if after level 20, abilities had diminishing returns? That way the longer you bee-keep the stronger your refiner is but, never quite to unreal-crazy levels.

Requires Exp goes up 5-10% each level, after level 20 a skill gains .1 per level. After level 100 it gains .05 per level etc. So you aren't stifling the players with a low hard cap etc. That really shouldn't be all that hard to program so it's not a system that would require a timesink and lots of regression or smoke testing.