Autolooting

[Possum12]

Just before I left for work this morning I saw some WC saying that "autoloot" was letting players loot the reserved corpses of other players kills. Won't use any names in this post.

This jogged my memory of what I thought happened to me awhile ago, but wasn't certain.

I don't use Razor or Steam & only started using Easyuo about a year ago to mostly just organize my bags when I still use the basic key macro for [claimall. When someone nearby is using a looter I can see the graphic of what they are looting drift down my screen. What happened in my case sounded similar to the player this morning - I had just killed a group of undead in Doom, noone else was near at this time, I had just started claiming the corpses when another player recalled in beside me & I could see the looted items image start to scroll down my screen. Wasn't sure at time if loot was actually missing as my bags were messy from claimall of a couple so far.

Would love to have someone reliable to actually test this to see if auto-looters can bypass the corpse reserve "tag". If they can - say what you like- this is just plain WRONG!! As far as I'm concerned it should be considered an exploit.

If this is possible, its not a one off its all the time, especially in doom as it always tends to be well tended by many players.

No issue with claiming left loot after reserved tag has worn off at all.

I know some people won't care, but some do....

Really really interested for a couple of players to test this and reply.

[Melkor]

There is a certain amount of time that only the Person who killed the monster can loot or claim. After that time the game allows anyone to loot or claim it, however it is against the rules.

[Wil]

It is not against the rules to loot a corpse that has gone grey.

I have occasionally seen my autolooter successfully open a blue corpse. Which shouldn't happen. The items are not lootable when it does. And I also notice that it flags my character as a criminal when this happens.

[Mosh]

I have occasionally seen my autolooter successfully open a blue corpse. Which shouldn't happen. The items are not lootable when it does. And I also notice that it flags my character as a criminal when this happens.

I wondered why I turned grey a few times...

I use UOSteam autolooter and it doesn't loot other's corpses until they have been sitting around awhile.

[Nick]

I use razor to auto loot ( [claimall, target corps type, then sort to token trash bag) and if a corps gets targeted that I do not have loot rights to I get a system MSG saying you don't have the right to loot that corps (or something like that). I have had a few people come up to me and complain about me claiming corpses they were not done looting but, they had left laying around so, long they were lootable by the public.
I will purposely claim all corpses on screen even id the other person has already picked up the gold and bone because when there are too many corpses on screen my script does not work very well and will target the same corps over and over again even when it "cant be seen" or "you don't have the right to loot that" prevents it from looting.

[Possum12]

Looting corpses that the "reserved" status has expired on is not an issue, autoloot, manual [claimall or whatever.

Heck where-ever I go and there are unattended corpses I try [claimall on them too - salvage ingots or bone items, sell regs & token bag the rest. Yes I often get message corpse is still reserved - never been flagged criminal though from a claimall attempt - that is interesting.

What was a concern though is if there is some sly way around the reserve timer on corpses?

When this "incident" occurred the other day 1 or 2 other players just said something like "get over it, its only some bones" or something like that. Not ever was it stated that "No that's not possible". Kinda like some people know that it is possible?

That was why I was interested in some "controlled" testing by honest folk. (Think they still exist)

Note: Only time I recall getting the "criminal" warning was when I was using an easyuo auto skinner macro. I think it skinned the reserved corpse, flagging me, never actually tried to loot the corpse to see for sure.

[Draikke]

Looting corpses that the "reserved" status has expired on is not an issue, autoloot, manual [claimall or whatever.

Heck where-ever I go and there are unattended corpses I try [claimall on them too - salvage ingots or bone items, sell regs & token bag the rest. Yes I often get message corpse is still reserved - never been flagged criminal though from a claimall attempt - that is interesting.

There is an option from your Paperdoll that will notify you when you're about to make a Criminal decision. Mixed with the [claimall option, macroing Cleric spells, the Druid book, certain actions with Razor, and attempting to heal the wrong target with Razor, the warning is apt to happen often on my end. Not to mention, Razor users cannot auto-loot and refuses to open reserved corpses, and the hot bag options won't pick up anything from corpses, just the ground. Razor will just auto-initiate [claim or [claimall as the closest thing it has for an autolooter.

What was a concern though is if there is some sly way around the reserve timer on corpses?

When this "incident" occurred the other day 1 or 2 other players just said something like "get over it, its only some bones" or something like that. Not ever was it stated that "No that's not possible". Kinda like some people know that it is possible?

That was why I was interested in some "controlled" testing by honest folk. (Think they still exist)

Hang on, I remember that "incident". I was one of those "1 or 2 users". Not mentioning any names but that person put the other on blast, but since it wasn't you that it happened to you're leaving a lot out. [X] was asking to be PM'd if there was any trouble, but [Y] kept going. There were a few saying "it's only some bones" disregarding [Y]'s lack of sportsmanship, but others asking if the corpse was automatically opened, how long the corpse has been there, how much damage the corpse has been taken among players in order for someone to own that kill... For one, was their hot bag automatically macro'd to take bones? Autolooters loot within a certain radius. Razor can only open corpses within 2 tiles. Doom is popular, so people have parts of Doom marked. The one who complained, what assistant were they using? Did they have anything macro'd for looting? Were they using one? How many monsters were they killing? Did it take them long? When they complained, it sounded like they were looting corpses manually. If you auto-loot something, yes to you an item is floating to their avatar, but to them it will just spontaneously appear in your bag. It's not that anyone didn't say, "No that's impossible" like they were onto something, but how? Since it didn't happen to you there were factors to consider. If it WAS an exploit where you could bypass the reserved corpse tag, we'd have a sheer chaos in champ spawns. You would see a lot of people going grey far more often than not in champ spawns when everyone has their autolooters for Steam/EasyUO active, where monsters are reserved and can be appropriately looted each wave before they respawn, and gold is on the floor. It'd have to bypass the reserve tag entirely or not at all.