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new poll - java or c++

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:05 am
by Alamiester
well it seems that this is a closed poll in game.

which one is easier to learn?

lets talk about it then.

i searched for java polls or java but got nothing. i just recently installed orion. i think its mostly based off of java/html. though i have some doubts about it, it looks pretty solid from the start. i have alot of past experience with uoex, mainly what i made scripts for in uosteam. and a bit with easyuo, mostly i used to play on my account. so i am familiar with both of those platforms to make scripts and use them, i have no idea what programing language they were made in or for. and i am not a programmer. i just learned it from what i saw and made it how i wanted it. that is the problem with these 3rd party apps, there is little or no instruction. uosteam had enough instruction that i could make what i wanted, by manipulating what they showed me. granted i looked at others and saw how they used it and used it to how i wanted it to do my bidding. thats not to say i didnt spend days or weeks trying to make a script work right though.

based on what you need to write scripts which programming language is easier to learn?

java or c++

Re: new poll - java or c++

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:36 am
by Wil
With C++, it's a case of "it depends."

A few people use C++ as C with a little bit extra. C is as close to the metal as it gets without going to assembly language. If you understand how the computer works, your C code runs like greased lightening. Indeed, the Java runtime itself, the JRE, is written in C. If you stick with printf() instead of cout<< you can write some phenomenally efficient code.

On the other hand, if you love the last decade's additions to C++ and use them heavily... why? Java does such a better job implementing object oriented programming, it's not particularly slower after C++'s libraries take you far from the metal and it's not constantly working around the inherent riskiness of C's pointers. Nor does C++ bring you the casual coding benefits of a scripting language like Perl or Python. So... why? For what task is "real" C++ the best choice of programming language?

Now, java is not javascript. I don't really comprehend the point of server-side javascript. Maybe it's a case of webhacks don't want to learn a second language? The language was written with one thing in mind: run in a web browser where the operator doesn't trust the code not to be trying to hack him. Which by the way it does less than a great job of. Back when I used the UOEX voting stone (haven't bothered since the whole reduce the reward if you don't do it often enough thing) I refused to do them on my Windows machine because one of the sites kept trying to drop 0-day windows javascript exploits on me.

Re: new poll - java or c++

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:04 am
by Alamiester
i understand you completely about the voting websites. tons of redirects, and you click on vote and you get 3 popups in other windows. it makes voting a pain in the butt. not to mention the pictures of crosswalks and buses it throws at you for 30 minutes.

seriously, if someone is cheating that much for votes for a game that is 23 years old, why are they cheating? its only to get that game to the top of the site? right...its easier to apply for a credit card then it is to vote on the top 5 uo sites.