Excelsior

Can we look at some way to imrpove chances of making DNA vials?

My recent experience is this. I bought 20k organics. Figured it would get me a bio. I made DNa vial set 5k organics. Bio deed 1k organics. Then with the extra 14k made vials. I had eaten so was full. I have 120 tink and 120 taming. I failed 7 times... 7 TIMES. I am supposed to be at 90%. So I sampled environment, got maxed DNA first try. Sampled prowess took me 3 vials. I bought another 6k organics. Fail 3 out of 6 attempts to make vials again with full stomach. Took me 4 vials to get mimic. I am currently getting mental DNA. I was given 2k organics. I doubt i will get the sample from that.

So far on one bio I have broken/used 7 vials on sampling. 10k organics just on failing something I am supposed to be able to do 90% of the time. This time i was lucky and made the vial set (5k organics). In the past i have failed on these twice in a row. 10k organics for nothing.

If this was the first time I would say hey i am unlucky. However my experience is that i fail under 60% of the time making vials. Surely with the time and effort it takes to get to the point in the game where you can make bios (5k luck, 120 tink, 120 taming and the resources to be able to collect or buy organics), it is worth making an item that adds a 5 or 10% chance increase.

28k organics I have used so far. 5.6 mil in gold roughly. I will probably need 6k more. 6.8 mil in gold to make this bio. In a market where i cant sell one for more than 7mil I will make 200k for a bio. I could get that in an hour grinding. take the 10k organics of failing out of the process and it makes it worth while. Might even bring the price of them down for younger players to be able to afford them. If i did fail vial set it wouldve cost me 7.8 mil to make something i couldnt sell for more than 7mil.

I think this is just another thing that might kill the bio market for us all.

Then like JP said there is a chance you forget to stable them and poof gone....

As i wrote this i sampled mental with 4k organics. 6.4 mil to make a bio where it couldve cost me 4.4 mil....

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TheWatcher

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TheWatcher wrote:As i wrote this i sampled mental with 4k organics. 6.4 mil to make a bio where it couldve cost me 4.4 mil....

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TheWatcher

What is your luck at mate? I heard you pretty much need Max luck to be able to sample. Because of that, I've decided to never get into making Bio's. But i've made a good buck selling organics

TheWatcher wrote:Might even bring the price of them down for younger players to be able to afford them.

I'm sure your logic is sound and that it can be frustrating. I've never bio-engineered. My only question is concerning the portion quoted. Do we really strive to make it more affordable for younger players? It seems to me getting a bio should be something that not every younger player has, and that it is something to strive for. If everyone has all the good stuff as younger players then what becomes the goal after it's all obtained?

I like that bio's are expensive. I like to see things that are hard to get. It makes it more rewarding when you actually accomplish it.

debeza wrote:

TheWatcher wrote:Might even bring the price of them down for younger players to be able to afford them.

I'm sure your logic is sound and that it can be frustrating. I've never bio-engineered. My only question is concerning the portion quoted. Do we really strive to make it more affordable for younger players? It seems to me getting a bio should be something that not every younger player has, and that it is something to strive for. If everyone has all the good stuff as younger players then what becomes the goal after it's all obtained?

I like that bio's are expensive. I like to see things that are hard to get. It makes it more rewarding when you actually accomplish it.

Bio's are already the cheaper option compared to even half way ointed imprisoned pets. So in a sense, they already are the affordable option for younger players.

Melkor wrote:What is your luck at mate? I heard you pretty much need Max luck to be able to sample. Because of that, I've decided to never get into making Bio's. But i've made a good buck selling organics

Luck is about 4500. My point was that i failed more times making vials than i did sampling vials. In something that i routinely fail 60% at. Dr Apoc tool doesnt increase your percentage to make vials. Maybe we can have something similar with limited uses, but actually increases the chance to make em?

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debeza wrote:
I'm sure your logic is sound and that it can be frustrating. I've never bio-engineered. My only question is concerning the portion quoted. Do we really strive to make it more affordable for younger players? It seems to me getting a bio should be something that not every younger player has, and that it is something to strive for. If everyone has all the good stuff as younger players then what becomes the goal after it's all obtained?

I like that bio's are expensive. I like to see things that are hard to get. It makes it more rewarding when you actually accomplish it.

Yep, I agree wholeheartedly. Funnily enough i dont make bios to sell, I usually give them to guildies. was just having a rant. I do also think bios will eventually become obsolete. Most people will choose imps over bios. But thats my opinion.

If its any consolation mate... the bio you made is freakin' awesome!!

well. when i make empty vials i always do 20k at a time. i usually get 16-18 empty vials. that's without my luck suit. o.O my tinkering is 110.5. so i dunno my friend. sampling prowess though i break a lot of vials. i succeed 1 out of 5 times with luck at 7200. o.O i succeed almost every time in both mental and environ, but.... i also get bad mimic. either 1 special or both none. or i get poison attack/ acid rain. do you want any of theses? o.O