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Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:30 am
by Eustace
Can I just delete the character?

Also... how would someone go about appealing to remove a chat ban? Suggestions?

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:40 am
by Gaara
Why do you want to delete you're character?

You could send a page about the chat ban, but i don't know if the staff remove bans beforehand.

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:52 am
by Eustace
I'd rather delete the character then go through the arduous process of being released from jail. I was actually jailed for trying to get into contact with a GM/admin. That is my point of view anyway.

Whatever else anyone can say I think everyone can agree that there needs to be some consistency in the way rules are enforced to players and by admins/GMs.

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:08 am
by paulus
oh god... now you are on the forums

Im guessing you have the name that starts with a V...........

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:13 am
by Gaara
Eustace wrote:I'd rather delete the character then go through the arduous process of being released from jail. I was actually jailed for trying to get into contact with a GM/admin. That is my point of view anyway.

Whatever else anyone can say I think everyone can agree that there needs to be some consistency in the way rules are enforced to players and by admins/GMs.
I'm sure everyone who's been jailed would rather not do it :P Trying to bypass the jail isn't allowed. (And trying to do so probably gives you more jail tasks...)

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:45 am
by dreamstalker
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Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:02 am
by Eustace
Good sirs and madams,

I was told by a GM to report any slight infraction in the rules. When I did this I was jailed by +N. The chat format doesn't allow for people to take turns speaking so there's a lot of information all at once. That doesn't make communication any easier in some cases. I believe I have been respectful and have followed all of the directives in good faith.

All the best,
Eustace

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:18 am
by Eustace
Gaara wrote:
Eustace wrote:I'd rather delete the character then go through the arduous process of being released from jail. I was actually jailed for trying to get into contact with a GM/admin. That is my point of view anyway.

Whatever else anyone can say I think everyone can agree that there needs to be some consistency in the way rules are enforced to players and by admins/GMs.
I'm sure everyone who's been jailed would rather not do it :P Trying to bypass the jail isn't allowed. (And trying to do so probably gives you more jail tasks...)
I could have said nothing and deleted the character. Instead I have asked if deletion is a suitable alternative? Hopefully you can see that I am seeking a resolution.

This is a wonderful shard with a superior player base. I have met a few of you in Britannia and I have only positive things to say. I apologize if I am appearing to "whine" or cause problems. I feel that I must walk on eggshells in order to not offend when I am only asking for clarification.

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:39 am
by dreamstalker
Sorry but I guess I shouldn't have posted earlier as I don't
Know what actually went on. Hope u find a satisfactory
resolution soon.

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:51 am
by Gaara
Eustace wrote:I could have said nothing and deleted the character. Instead I have asked if deletion is a suitable alternative? Hopefully you can see that I am seeking a resolution.
:nod:

But this is out of our hands, you'll have to contact the staff via paging or email if you wish to discuss your chat ban or jailing.

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:51 am
by +Nyx
You were not jailed for paging. You were jailed because you circumvented a chat ban by utilizing another character created after the chat ban was enacted. A chat ban you earned because 2 minutes after you paged on someone for a slight infraction, you then called them out in world chat as if it was your place to publicly cite them for it. This is something you'd already been told repeatedly and in great detail was not appropriate and not to do. Since you'd been such a problem the entire night and completely ignored both mine and +R's lengthy explanations of the rules and how to improve your behavior, you were chat banned. Then you created a new character and proceeded to continue trolling world chat. When we noticed, you were jailed.

We went out of our way for -hours- to explain to you (repeatedly) how this shard works and what our rules are, how to avoid being a nuisance in world chat. You completely ignored it all and continued to show you were just here to troll.

Your tasks will not be lifted, and if you do anything to attempt to circumvent them, you'll receive 500+ more. You cannot delete a character while it is jailed. If you create new accounts, they will be banned. You can do your 25 tasks or not, but they do not decay. You earned them and need to do them if you wish to play here further. You are also not supposed to be using the forums while you are jailed.

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:26 pm
by dreamstalker
IMO nuff said

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:01 pm
by +Requiem
I told you that if you felt someone was in violation of the rules, you could send a page.

That does not include talking about it in world chat. That does not include *your* interpretation of the rules, or your attempts to enforce *your* interpretation on others.

You were also warned, multiple times, to just stop talking and let it go. Yet you chose to keep pushing the envelope, which i told you not to do in our hours long conversation. You were being obnoxious on purpose, which never goes over well with anyone.

Also, I'd like to point out, that world chat is *not* your personal blog.

14.7. 23:09 Verkhoshansky: sorry bros just injected my testosterone shot for the week and i'm RAGGGGING
drug reference - against the rules

14.7. 23:10 Verkhoshansky: yall neckbeards is ragin
14.7. 23:11 Verkhoshansky: organce finger check!
14.7. 23:11 Verkhoshansky: whos been at the doritos???
14.7. 23:11 Verkhoshansky: cheetos?
14.7. 23:14 Verkhoshansky: hey guys
14.7. 23:15 Verkhoshansky: ...hey guys
14.7. 23:15 Verkhoshansky: guys and girls
14.7. 23:15 Verkhoshansky: ....
14.7. 23:15 Verkhoshansky: hey wanna no wat
14.7. 23:15 Verkhoshansky: u wanna know wut??
14.7. 23:16 Verkhoshansky: so far so good
14.7. 23:16 Verkhoshansky: anyone else want to say something to me?
14.7. 23:16 Verkhoshansky: seeing as it is my birfday
14.7. 23:17 Verkhoshansky: no?
14.7. 23:17 Verkhoshansky: well u just did!!! hahahahahahahhahaa
14.7. 23:17 Verkhoshansky: hahahahahahahahhaha
14.7. 23:17 Verkhoshansky: can they ban me for this?
14.7. 23:17 Verkhoshansky: uh oh we got a hipster on our hands
14.7. 23:17 Verkhoshansky: cool off bruh
14.7. 23:18 Verkhoshansky: is it really so bad?
14.7. 23:18 Verkhoshansky: what now then???
14.7. 23:18 Verkhoshansky: hello Farook
14.7. 23:18 Verkhoshansky: welcome
14.7. 23:18 Verkhoshansky: how is it going?
14.7. 23:18 Verkhoshansky: long time no talky
14.7. 23:19 Verkhoshansky: who wants to join my guild
14.7. 23:19 Verkhoshansky: we are a generous bunch
14.7. 23:19 Verkhoshansky: welcome Faust!

talking to youself invalidates the purpose of WORLD CHAT

14.7. 23:20 Verkhoshansky: nobody wanna join mai guild?
14.7. 23:20 Verkhoshansky: gigla wanna join my guild?
14.7. 23:20 Verkhoshansky: anyone??????!?!?!?!!!!

multiple ads, when you're allowed 1 per 60 minutes.

14.7. 23:27 Verkhoshansky: i need help
14.7. 23:27 Verkhoshansky: *crickets*
14.7. 23:27 Verkhoshansky: *crickets intensify*
14.7. 23:28 Verkhoshansky: go to realthick.tumblr if u into that bro
14.7. 23:28 Verkhoshansky: on the real mayne
14.7. 23:28 Verkhoshansky: i need some assistance
14.7. 23:29 Verkhoshansky: i feel like people are ignoring me

spam

And you continue for another hour or so, into the next day....


15.7. 00:27 Verkhoshansky: this game is stupid all u do is macro your brains out until you max out then sit around the
15.7. 00:27 Verkhoshansky: bank bullishing

language violation

15.7. 00:31 Verkhoshansky: we got another streaker i nthe training room
15.7. 00:31 Verkhoshansky: mods please respond
15.7. 00:31 Verkhoshansky: need an admin here
15.7. 00:31 Verkhoshansky: this is a FAMILT oriented shard
15.7. 00:31 Verkhoshansky: TRAINING ROOM!!!!
15.7. 00:31 Verkhoshansky: OMG IM DYING

that obnoxious thing again

15.7. 00:34 Verkhoshansky: i was a life scout then I dropped out and started smoking pot

drug reference - chat violation

15.7. 00:35 Mr.J: no drug talk in public
15.7. 00:35 Verkhoshansky: dudes streaking in the training room and weed is legal in 23 states

warned by fellow player and another chat violation

15.7. 00:36 Verkhoshansky: i can't talk avbotu herb?

+1 chat violation

15.7. 00:36 +Requiem: you should go read the rules: http://uoex.net/codex
15.7. 00:36 +Requiem: before you say another word

15.7. 00:38 Verkhoshansky: marijuana is mild and not toxic compared to alcohol

+1 chat violation

15.7. 00:38 +Nyx: You're irritating me, are you trying?
15.7. 00:39 Grey Fox: Hes a major troll, I alread put him on ignore.

<insert our short conversation here>

took you all of 3 seconds to start up the obnoxious thing in world chat after you left jail.

15.7. 00:55 Soylent: an evening of wine followed?
15.7. 00:55 Verkhoshansky: this is a family oriented forum
15.7. 00:56 Verkhoshansky: no drug talk please
15.7. 00:56 Verkhoshansky: srs i was just locked up for a minute
15.7. 00:56 Verkhoshansky: keep that ish to PMs

language violation

15.7. 00:56 Verkhoshansky: im not breaking your rules only mocking them

obnoxious

15.7. 00:57 +Nyx: same result
15.7. 00:57 +Requiem: not acceptable

15.7. 00:58 Verkhoshansky: i feel that these rules are being arbitrarily applied to me
15.7. 00:58 Verkhoshansky: there have been several violations already

15.7. 00:59 +Requiem: Verk, did you read the codex i linked you to"?
15.7. 00:59 Verkhoshansky: i think so
15.7. 01:00 +Requiem: ok, if you have more question, feel free to send a help request.
15.7. 01:00 +Requiem: arguing the rules in a public forum, isn't going to get you anywhere.
15.7. 01:01 Verkhoshansky: whatever this isn't fair but ill shut up

15.7. 01:01 Verkhoshansky: u guys are mean
15.7. 01:01 +Requiem: you haven't seen mean.. keep it up, and you will

15.7. 01:03 Verkhoshansky: i'd just like to know what the rules are because honestly im on the spectrum
15.7. 01:03 Verkhoshansky: and i am really confused and feel unfairly treated
15.7. 01:03 +Requiem: for the THIRD time, if you want to chat about it, send a help request - world chat is NOT
15.7. 01:04 +Requiem: the place.

15.7. 01:04 Verkhoshansky: brb im gonna figure this out without
15.7. 01:04 Verkhoshansky: "pissing off" anyone
15.7. 01:04 Verkhoshansky: brb
5.7. 01:05 Verkhoshansky: ok rule 3 is way to vague and gives infinite and arbitary power to admins

15.7. 01:05 +Nyx: kinda the point of admins
15.7. 01:06 +Nyx: to interpret the rules made by the owner

15.7. 01:06 +Nyx: Well, I tried nice-ish cop so
15.7. 01:06 +Nyx: I'm bored of this game and I'll go back to bad cop
15.7. 01:07 +Nyx: Stop talking, arguing, debating, enforcing or otherwise interacting publicly in any way about
15.7. 01:07 +Nyx: the rules or what you think of them. Do it again, you will be chat banned or jailed.
15.7. 01:07 +Nyx: If you have questions of a legitimate nature you may send a page, as I previously explained.
15.7. 01:07 +Nyx: have a WONDERFUL day.

15.7. 01:07 Verkhoshansky: i would like to talk about this to someone if they are willing to talk
15.7. 01:07 Verkhoshansky: otherwise i will shutup
15.7. 01:07 +Requiem: click the HELP button on your paperdoll... you could have EASILY asked that by now.
15.7. 01:08 Verkhoshansky: help and then what? general support?
15.7. 01:08 +Requiem: thats fine, yes

15.7. 01:10 Verkhoshansky: sent a page
15.7. 01:10 Verkhoshansky: waiting for response
15.7. 01:10 +Nyx: an insulting one, I'll get right on that.
15.7. 01:10 Verkhoshansky: that was not my intent

<insert our longer talk>

15.7. 01:48 Verkhoshansky: women*
15.7. 01:48 Verkhoshansky: that's kind of rude but i will ignore it becuase it is agaisnt the rules to cause drama n argue

its not your place to interpret the rules.

15.7. 01:50 Verkhoshansky: i had a good chat about the rules
15.7. 01:50 Verkhoshansky: i am forbiden to talk about them though
15.7. 01:50 Verkhoshansky: on the group chat i mean

15.7. 01:53 Verkhoshansky: everyone, i want to inform you
15.7. 01:53 Verkhoshansky: i am on the lookout for rule violations however slight
15.7. 01:53 Verkhoshansky: please monitor your typing
15.7. 01:53 Verkhoshansky: that is an illegal abbreviation
15.7. 01:54 Verkhoshansky: that's for you to take up with an admin
15.7. 01:54 Verkhoshansky: this is a friendlty warning

15.7. 01:54 +Requiem: Verkhoshansky, if you want to report something, do so in a page. Not world chat.
15.7. 01:54 +Nyx: Verk, you're doing that obnoxious thing again

15.7. 01:54 +Nyx: maybe you genuinely don't have the social skills to grasp what you're doing, and on that
15.7. 01:54 +Nyx: benefit of the doubt I'm giving you a very very last warning
15.7. 01:54 +Nyx: stop talking



15.7. 01:57 Verkhoshansky: Fiernocht you need to obey the rules

<insert your chat ban here> Which seriously, should have probably been longer than it was.
Then you made a new character, and talked in world chat.

Which shouldn't have even been possible, not sure how you were able to.

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:26 pm
by Ishamael
Wow dude, the staff was way more patient with you than I woulda been. Do your tasks to get out of jail or find yourself a different shard. Kudos to +N and +R for the patience and tact in dealing with this.

Re: Locked up in jail...

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:48 pm
by Sick P
This guy was at it for a long time in world chat. There was not only admins talking to him, but about five of us were trying to explain to him what he was doing wrong and to just drop it.