Excelsior

One upon a time, in a shard far far away, I and a GM tricked another Admin (A Female one) Into testing a gate for us... she ended up, Naked, In a cage, unable to recall or do anything but yell at us from within the cage ( yes I have Pics so it did happen)..
I will get to the point of this gate in a moment.
When People PVP, When people Compete period, they tend to get emotional.
I run the local Mud Runs every year, three times a summer. When we have Trophies, things are usually very friendly and fun, when I offer Cash, I have Fist Fights and lots of yelling. Why are people willing to fight over twenty bucks in cash, but Not over a twenty dollar trophy? They dont view the two as the same. Losing MONEY Hurts, losing a Trophy doesnt.
Set up an event gate, that removes "everything" a player has, pops it in their bank. deposite them into a room where they can choose new gear designated "pvp" gear and go kill to their hearts content. This would also take the pet threat away, and make pvp somewhat more honorable again.
When they leave, there is only one way out, through another gate that removes the Designated "pvp" gear. Make it known, and posted, ANYONE entering the pvp area, gets whatever happens to them, NO Exceptions, no complaints will be heard about the PVP dungeon.
If there is no loss, there will be fewer complaints or worries, and yet still allow those with the itch to scratch it.

i went in there (pvp dung) for the second, and last time at the suggestion of another player, so they could help a friend of mine without joining the guild.. which they did, helped very much raising resists etc.. but, in the process, he also killed both of us for the heads. I was.. quite perturbed, and disturbed about it, I felt it extremely childish and uncalled for, Killing myself was not so bad, but killing a player that was two hours old for their head? He must be very proud... anyhow, I like the person, so decided not to persue it.. however, you will never, EVER, catch me in there again. As far as I am concerned, the PVP dung can get closed once and for all times, and I would be cheering loudest in happyness... but, I make the above suggestion, because I happen to know, it works.
That is my suggestion, for what its worth.. Knite

That sounds like a great idea and i've seen that on some of the shard's that ive been on as well. So i know it works well

I once was a GM on a shard in my country and that's almost exactly the system we designed for tournaments and certain special kind of duels. It worked just great.

Anyway, I agree it would be good for the pvp dungeon for players that want the friendliest environment for pvping, but some people actually enjoy the idea that they can lose things.

Maybe it would be something they could ADD to the dungeon, so that players can choose which way they want to fight. The regular way or the completely fair (same equipment, no pets) no loss kind of way.

That's my two cents.

hmm, well if the point is that we are not a PvP shard, then why play the unfair way at all?

love,
Llexa

I guess because PvP is always consensual on this shard, which is mainly what makes it non-PvP, in spite of it's ocassional "unfairness".

PvP is not a topic on this server. Players voted and people do not want PvP. Its a done subject. If you wish to PvP you can "duel" other guild members out of sight from other players.

As long as there is no yelling and screaming about PvP in chat or any public or private talk we staff really have no problem with you all killing each other though.

I understood the vote was to expand PVP to Fel on a consensual basis, I did not realize it was to also to close the pvp dungeon, I appologize for bringing it up again.

To clarify

What +Lalakuno meant to say is that you may duel guild members, however this MUST be done in the PvP Dungeon, not simply out of site of other players.

+Rayne