Anti pvp? Lack of excitment

[Gordin]

And you might want to keep speculation on other's donations, when you assume you make an [-] out of you and me.

So, which monster will give me as a loot a lanter called jackals collar? Or how do I craft 5 different pieces of gear with 400 luck?
I must only speculate, because neither wiki or stratics or even uoguide gives me those answers...

[Harabakc]

None of that means it's the result of a donation.

I responded because I had answers, none of which really matters, his attitudes on this subject have been the same for several months it's nothing new. I have 1000+ ED worth of player services as well, I've never donated.

[A Black Death]

well now as to how much i have personally donated and when A) thats not your concern and B) you are totally guessing and incorrect , as to me offering to pay someone if they could kill me yes i did that, meaning i would tab out and let them unload whatever they had to see if i Could Die i want to see what my limits are and the current situation of pvp dungeon rules dont prohibit solitation of having someon attack you , SO i dont see what the hubub is here anyways, i dont see anything going anywhere just was curious who else might like a "little more spice" in their life on ex, bearing in mind this would only effect players WHo made the decision they wanted Said spice, not the new players or non pvpers would have no effect on them what so ever

[mnty]

This shard is not tuned - balanced for pvp.
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Yeah, you're absolutely right, polar. There is no balance. It's a big pity.
Since now, i just love to ask to make a pvp area in any town (ocllo, scara, buc's, etc. poll?) and let it start with no rules, until there's no need of 'em, coz this pvp dungeon - its even not funny. So if ppl dont like to see fights around brit bank, i can understand this
I read that 4-month old topic few times, and pretty understand what people wanna say, but i don't see many of those people now, these days. So i hope we could make a new poll with another idea, huh?

[fingers]

You are absolutely right on one thing, it is none of my concern how much you donate; and furthermore, it's great if you donate alot as it compensates for players like me who can't donate. And quite obviously, we wouldn't have this nice uoex world if all players were broke like me.

The fact of the matter is that you actually wear 3 jackals collar, and have a total of 77 bonus dex over the 125 that you can have in your base stats. On OSI, they fixed (balanced) bndages in a way that whatever your dex is, it takes at least 3 seconds to bandage self. I doubt they made that here and without testing, i beleive you bandage yourself in 1 second. That applied with 95 hit point uninterruptable clerical heals that heals true poison and mortal makes you quite unkillable. What I called "God mode" previously.

You are so aware of that "God mode" of yours that you challenged any player to kill you, by all means and even a pack of nobles yesterday for 100k. What I am saying is more power to you, if you can gather such a suit, with donations or not; but allowing at the same time this setup and pvp on the shard is a none sens.

And finally, don't be an iunsult to my intelligence denying that you donated at least 200$ in the last 2-3 months. But I would like to thanks you for doing so

[Bubba Ho Tep]

but allowing at the same time this setup and pvp on the shard is a none sens.

Bottom line being: we will never have balanced pvp; better case scenario, we'll have balanced battles, id we build balanced teams. But 1x1? Not without changing a whole lotta stuff on the shard.

Ant hat being the case, in my opinion, we better ask for more mass pvp events, balanced at each opportunity, than to turn this in a regular basis man hunt done by players who offer no chance of a fair fight, of resistance to the regular joe.

[Harabakc]

I'll say it flat out, you don't understand what you're talking about in regards to stats or how they work in this situation. And donations are not required to reach that point, neither are any staff changing of anything.

I was at that point without any modifications from any deeds of any kind. I have since made myself another collar, just to make things a little easier on myself.

And you're wrong about his donations, but if he wants to say what he's donated that's up to him.

[Violette]

I suggest we allow guild wars or Chaos/order guild fighting in tram and turn off hostile orange in fel to prevent champ raiding
the reason i suggest is for the players that Only like to pvp (non crafter/pvmers) wouyld have some kind of vent and the players that Dont like pvp wouldnt have someone cutting off their heads, Simple choice you join a chaos order guild you know that the opponent guild type might kill you, but you also know you might get a chance to chase them thru the woods sending spells and shooting arrows poison daggars at them until they die or better yet get to boast that they said the infamous words " i resign from my guild" the ultimate tap out, the heart beat and addrenline rush is enough to keep even the most bored players around longer and happily entertained even if they only get 1 scruffle a week that Hunt for oranges is always better than fighting something with AI and the people on both sides of the fence here should come to terms and understand what i suggest is simply for those WHO want to get into a fight they have a way to do so Without affecting those who dont *(non chaos/order) so please consider this and read carefully to my suggestion =D

Please note: I am anti pvp, I hate it, I don't engage in it, my last taste of UO pvp was as bait in a pk killer guild. I lured them to their doom.

I agree with Black Death, for those that enjoy pvp having something where non pvpers don't have to get involved but that people who want to can pvp somewhere away from me works just find for me. The order/chaos thing in theory works out well.. I'm sure we'll get alot of 12 year old rules lawyers types screaming and complaining and asserting that they are right when they don't have a clue, and complain in general when they go to fel and get killed by an opposing faction. The general chat is the only problem I see with this suggestion. To many of the less than intelligent kids would join a pvp guild get killed then squeel in general chat because they assume everyone cares about everything they do.

Just a nonpvpers two cents on the idea of segregated pvp.

[fingers]

You are right, I only played 7 years on a red with healing, had more than 2000 murder counts; but i don't know a thing about stats and how they work

As per stratics:

Dexterity Time per Bandage on Self
10 - 19 11 Seconds
20 - 39 10 Seconds
40 - 59 9 Seconds
60 - 79 8 Seconds
80 - 99 7 Seconds
100 - 119 6 Seconds
120 - 139 5 Seconds
140 - 159 4 Seconds

They capped it at 4 seconds for some balance issues (sorry, i know i said 3 seconds before).

It used not to be capped, so if we extrapolate:

160-179 3 Seconds
180-199 2 Seconds
200+ 1 Second

I don't mind being wrong, and being told so, but I don't like a person that talks like if he held the truth and all other were idiots.

[Harabakc]

This isn't OSI.

And you're incorrect. I have no intention of giving you actual numbers. If you want to see how it works you can put the work into getting to that point.

[fingers]

Of course you have no intention of giving numbers. Funny thing is two hours ago, I had two pm's telling me the same thing about your post with the big word in it. Can't recall exactly how it was said, but mainly:"the guy acts like he knows all and everyone else is an idiot, yet he won't teach anyone".

And you are right, this is not OSI, they have the ressources to put alot of energy in balancing pvp, yet, it's never quite balanced. Imagin how genious of an idea it is to propose it here

[Harabakc]

I'm not sure what any of this has any idea of what to do with chaos/order guilds being able to guild war. I'm also not sure how it matters how much money anyone has given to the server or how that factors into anything. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

If you want to make this about me, that's fine, you obviously don't know me or anything about me. So keep it up, you're welcome to rattle off whatever you like to try and get a reaction, but it's not going to get you very far.

[fingers]

Well, I would personally prefer "I do no agree", "I think that...", "from my experiences, i did not get the results you did"; rather than the: "you are wrong and I am not going to reveal you the accurate numbers".

I would prefer we keep a cordial relationship, but really, this "you are wrong, incompetent at the game, and I know everything there is to know about it" finds a way to get under my skin.

As for why not let factions or guild wars happen, Bubba mainly expressed what I think about it:

we better ask for more mass pvp events, balanced at each opportunity, than to turn this in a regular basis man hunt done by players who offer no chance of a fair fight, of resistance to the regular joe.

[Bubba Ho Tep]

No one has been able to make it sound reasonable that the difference of equipment won't matter on the pvps. I mean, it goes against logic, and there's not a single drop of evidence against it. Black Death himself can come here and pronunciate about how many chars, nowadays, he thinks have the capacity to actually do a pvp with him on a equal and fair basis.
Come on guys...He was trying to figure out if five nobles would be enough to kill him. Who else can afford (no pum intended) this kinda doubt? I sure can't. Five nobles would surely run over me like a tomato.

And therefore, if he could engage in combat with a given person at sight, wouldn't this person, therefore, be kinda banned from, for instance, Britain's bank, wher he spends so much time? This one fella surely wouldn't be able to go there without at least four more frineds to support him.

[A Black Death]

thats the name of the game Gank or be ganked , then you go for revenge i have no problem dieing to the hands of 1 person or 30 persons, again thats the name of the game, what you do after is how your personal standards will allow you to react, back in osi i had more than 70000 pk's, do i really see anything happening here NO i dont but im merly stating my opinion to see the responses ON topic nothing more, i believe like violete said giving people who Choos to do this a way to do it w/o affecting people who dont is a great idea not "ingenious" if 1v1 i or someone else couldnt be killed then maby you would need 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 10 my personal best i got ganked by 27 people on OSI and guess what i killed 23 of them and sent 4 runing away to recal so the "god mode" has nothing to do with my topic i dont have something in mypossesion or anything changed that NOone else can achieve or get so again please try to stay on topic here