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ok i wonder what i could do with nasa's budget

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... -moon.html


$18 billion nasa budget
$7.5 billion people today 10 year 8 billion

i will share this with every person in the world if the just do save the world scrap the next mission

18 Billion is divided by 8 Billion = 2.25

18 Billion is divided by 9 Billion = 2

18 Billion is divided by 10 Billion = 1.8

18 Billion is divided by 11 Billion = 1.636

18 Billion is divided by 12 Billion = 1.5

still want togo to the moon
10,000 Lemmings cant be WRONG can they
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Big toys asks big money. If they will be able to get us to other solar systems or even galaxies some day, than it will pay off. As i know moon is attractive cause of one of helium isotopes, useful in nuclear fusion and forgot which, but one more thing. Just hope they will get the mass they bring out from moon, also back. Don't want to hear some day in news that moon is flying away with much faster speed and we must wait for shaking, and following from that cataclysm's. And of course opposite too.
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M3D1CN1 wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:56 pm
ok i wonder what i could do with nasa's budget
Option 1: Buy everybody on the planet one hamburger and a diet soda from McDonalds.

Option 2: Send a team to the moon.

I vote: Moon. Buy your own darn hamburger.

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Fast-reading the article: "One will be wearing a radiation protection vest and the other won't. " who would volunteer for such a thing?
*Retraces to previous paragraph*
"The dummies have..." ooooh :)

Yeah I also vote moon and further exploration... It's the exploration and various experimentation that has brought us this far, and it's going to go forward in ways we can't even imagine.
Well, it's kind of useless to go to the moon while so many people are hungry (and stressed/depressed, etc..) here on Earth but I don't think 2 dollars per person would solve that.

Reminds me of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC2UqkqWiDA

Wil wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:16 pm
Option 1: Buy everybody on the planet one hamburger and a diet soda from McDonalds.
As an owner of CocaCola stock, I vote Option 1 :mrgreen:
(Well, it would just relocate a lot of money, and all those billions spent on cocacola bottles would become even more centralized)
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nasa has a relatively small operating budget compared to some of other agencies
by comparison they spend their money well with what they achieve
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Geriatric wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:43 pm
nasa has a relatively small operating budget compared to some of other agencies
We are way after the curve ... because of centralized government agencies.

in 1903 there was first powered and controlled flight in North Carolina.
in 1916 there is military use and talks about separate branch of service
in 1932 or 1936 first commercial trans Atlantic connection by PanAm (could be faster if not British and Portugal obstruction)
in 1944 jet fighters and bombers , ballistic missiles (German V2 .. V4)
in 1961 Saturn I rocket
in 1969 Moon landing
1985 Mir space station beginning of ISS design
1998 start of ISS
2000 Mir deorbited into atmosphere
2011 - end of space shuttle program
2015 - new rockets SpaceX Falcon, Chinese Long March 6 and 11,
2021 - first module of Tiangong space station
2030 end of ISS extended life span.

we are paddling against current for last 30 years , while we should move forward ...

but we have time for:
- global warming
- 63 genders and 200 pronouns ( where possible I place Master :-) )
- work-life balance
- ISIS, Boko Haram, Antifa ... (nuke all from orbit and continue life)
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oh btw the its for 2.2 million not 2 dollars sorry lol
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just realised there was something wrong with his math...
the calculations based off everyone in the world while NASA is an american agency
so its 18 bill / 300 mill
thats now 60 dollars for every man woman and child

between the ages of 1 to 16 there is about 60 million kids in the country
so.... 300 mill minus 60 mill we are now down to 240 mill

that jumps the pay bracket up to 75 dollars

should we count all the people who are retired and not earning money anymore?
thats another 50 million... so were down to 190
how about the disabled? people who cant work estimates put that figure around 20 milion
now down to 170

were now up to 105 dollars per year, for every working adult in america
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It seems a lot but I hope the US and Europe join efforts to boost space exploration and improve budgets considerably. The ISS is over because Russia doesn't want to maintain joint efforts with the US and instead is going to explore with China who has invested largely on this.

The thing that we must keep in mind is that both china and Russia aim to create a docking station in the moon to pursue space exploration from there. China has already explored the "dark side of the moon" (great album btw) in 2019 and America is falling behind on the race.

Can the US and Europe maintain their position without space control? after all, the resources on Earth are becoming depleted. How about if Russia or China weaponize space?

In my view UN only works because all nations are somewhat balanced in their power. Space would shift the balance quite considerably.

So to answer the question "what i could do with nasa's budget" : You could probably continue to eat democracy with your burger for the rest of your life ;)
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Geriatric wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:20 pm
that jumps the pay bracket up to 75 dollars
Forget McDonalds! That's dinner for two at the Outback Steakhouse!

I still vote Moon.
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for people with disposable income its a nice dinner out

but for people who are struggling to make ends meet, its the water bill, or the electricity bill
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Geriatric wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:50 pm
for people with disposable income its a nice dinner out

but for people who are struggling to make ends meet, its the water bill, or the electricity bill
That argument was made in the 1960s as well. It turns out that there are a lot of quality of life technologies enjoyed even by folks struggling to pay their water bill which trace, in part, back to the moon program. All of us are better for our forebears having the foresight and fortitude to take the scientific and technological long shots instead of burning more money on folks who will struggle to pay their electric bill next month no matter what help you offer this month.

At the societal level, expanding the edge of the possible is usually a good investment.
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Wil wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:38 am
That argument was made in the 1960s as well. It turns out that there are a lot of quality of life technologies enjoyed even by folks struggling to pay their water bill which trace, in part, back to the moon program.
For more information you can see: https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/infographics/2 ... ace-travel
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Silent wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:38 pm


Can the US and Europe maintain their position without space control? after all, the resources on Earth are becoming depleted. How about if Russia or China weaponize space?
If i can intrude with my opinion. Space itself is already weaponized, just without will and preferences. If one nation will do this, others will run to catch, and doesn't matter who ,(don't care who points gun on my head just fact if it happens) matters just will they use it or not. Also, don't think there is much differences except tiny bit more time if something gets launched and than dropped, than just dropped .There is no bad inventions, just way how they are exploited. And that's on humans. B.t.w. space technologies gave benefit to medicine. Also if people wouldn't need to be afraid that something can happen with their only home, it will be stick with two sides, cause its one of stopping factors. On original question of topic, have no clue what i would do with such budget, suppose after making sure that i never go out of finances dropped what left in some research, but perhaps more grounded, or try to increase level of life in my surroundings with already existing, but lacking things. From other side, space isn't something you can go and explore in one shot if it happens to be urgent necessity.
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Cerrera wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:32 am
Space itself is already weaponized, just without will and preferences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAT_program_of_China
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