Horselord vs Hanzo's

[evoccr]

I have a Hanso's Bow levelled to 30 now. Is there any advantage to starting to level my Horselord Bow? Is the Horselord really better than the Hanzo's?

[Penny]

Neither of them is good.

Get a good crafted yumi. It's better at lvl 0 than hanzo/horselord will ever be at lvl 100.

[evoccr]

Good advice, what stats am I looking for in a Yumi? BTW it was the 5 pts per level that got me going on Hano's. In hindsite I should have bout a Yumi a while ago.

[Penny]

leeches and on-hit-spells

[Stranger]

Pm me in game. I can sell you nice crafted bow.

[Dj Sticky]

I just copy pasted this from another thread I posted it in. It will show you exactly why Jack is giving you good advice and why even a decent crafted bow is much better then a Horselord or Hanzo's

Do yourself a favor, do NOT level a hanzos or horselord. You will hear many people tell you differently but take a step back and think about it. The immediate, not well thought out answer is "duh you get 5pts per lvl on those two and only 3 on a crafted". Lets go through this.

What do you want on your bow?

99.9% of the time you will want all or most of the following at 40%+:

Mana Leech
Hit Lower Defense
Hit Spell (pref Lightning)
SSI

You MAY want:
Spell Channeling
Life Leech
Stam Leech
DI

I'll use my tastes but the specific props don't really matter, it's the desirability and intensities that do.

I'd like in the end to have:
8 Dex
8 Str
Mana Leech
HLD
LIghtning
Stam Leech
some SSI

Now you have two options.

Get a Hanzo's and lvl it.

Now I just ran out of points at lvl 100 and I have
8dex
8dtr
48 Lightning
48 mana Leech
20 SSI
and
50 di I didn't want
40 LL I didn't want
3 SR I could add later with EDs
and only 5 HLD

Weak...

Option 2:

Find a crafted bow that starts with:
40 Mana Leech
40 HLD
40 Stam Leech

Now that's only 3 props, easy to find one with 4 props for under 100k. I bought mine at 4x everything I wanted except hit spell for TWENTY THOUSAND GOLD and I found it in about 1 hour of searching vendors.

Now lvl that to 100 I end up with
8 dex
8 str
40 Mana Leech
40 Stam Leech
40 HLD
38 Lightning
20 SSI

Everything I wanted at or near intensities I needed and NOTHING I DON"T WANT. Keep in mind this is just a conservitive example. You could very well find or craft a bow with 40 ML, 40 SL, 40 HLD, 40 LIghtning and spend you points on bumping lightning to 60 + ssi + str/dex + DI if you need it. The options are limitless.

I payed the same, or a bit less or more depending on the bow you find.

See were I"m going with this?

Also, I used a very very conservative starting crafted bow. Heck I've seen crafted weapons that the only thing they needed added was the str and dex to be near perfect for me.

**All points and leveling caps were calculated using the weapon level planner so the numbers ARE accurate**

Now the third option is the "i need a perfect weapon" option. Wait months on end to loot or find some one selling a 5x58 weapon with the props you want, pay them the 1m-10m that they will want for it (or loot it yourself after 900000 peerless killed), lvl it, pay 200ed to change to Yumi and have your perfect weapon.

I'll let you choose from here

[Danilo Thann]

To answer you question, to each there own. That being said, and having read everyone elses posts, I say Horselord. But because the question was which was better. What Penny and Dj sticky mention is true if you're looking for a well rounded bow that will get the job done just about any where. However, the Reptile slayer property alone is Epic, if you are using it the right way. (the hanzo bow should only be used for raising your ninjitsu, IMO)

For Instance:

1) Fighting in Destard VS Dragons, drakes, wyvern, snakes, Shadow Dragons, and the Ancient wyrm.

2) Doing the Fel Destard Champion Spawn, because everything that spawns is Reptilian.

3) If you are like everyone else, using pets, --- Pets + Horselord VS Paragon Ancient Wyrms (bottom level of fel Destard) = Win.

4) There are many dragons/reptialian types hiding near most Peerless bosses; also there are a few in other random places, that the Horselord will come in handy for sure.

Five is not really a power point, but a bit of honest advice, in that its not the weapon that works well, its the person using the weapon that MAKES it work for them. Sure most artifacts are junk, but with some thought and effort you can make junk into a very decent treasure.

Keep up the good fight, and never say never.

[Dj Sticky]

To answer you question, to each there own. That being said, and having read everyone elses posts, I say Horselord. But because the question was which was better. What Penny and Dj sticky mention is true if you're looking for a well rounded bow that will get the job done just about any where. However, the Reptile slayer property alone is Epic, if you are using it the right way. (the hanzo bow should only be used for raising your ninjitsu, IMO)

Nothing wrong with carrying a slayer around. I carry about 6 different weapon at any given time because I would rather have 6 weapons that excel at 6 different things vs one weapon that merely gets the job done for all 6.

I will say my post here was more aimed at the question we see again and again, "Hi I need a good bow, is Horselord good to lvl?" I see the horselord as something I would play with later on down the road when I've got nothing better to do then lvl a slayer weapon (if I used bows).

[Danilo Thann]

*nods* Indeed. To be short. I was told awhile ago that giving little advice often confuses the new players. So I try to be thorough as possible. You had most of it down... I just put out the rest and added a little of my own knowledge.

Hope I don't sound condescending, cause I'm not trying to be. I'm just an honest and bluntly spoken (Typed) person.

Later my friend, and wash yer hands. They're sticky again... DJ.

[Brotherwolf]

To be honest I think the Hanzo's is an overrated newbie bow. I dont mind the horselords and Yumis overall very stylish but currently lvling a dryad bow, Juka King bow and one of my crafted Yumis. I thought maybe someday of lvling a horselord. There are Alot of fun bows around to lvl and many awesome bow crafters with good prices too. Just my opinion but the only good hanzo for me is the fast 10k gold I can get for it.

Wolf

[Dj Sticky]

*nods* Indeed. To be short. I was told awhile ago that giving little advice often confuses the new players. So I try to be thorough as possible. You had most of it down... I just put out the rest and added a little of my own knowledge.

Hope I don't sound condescending, cause I'm not trying to be. I'm just an honest and bluntly spoken (Typed) person.

Later my friend, and wash yer hands. They're sticky again... DJ.

Didn't take that way at all 