Unattended Weapon leveling

[Amberly]

Yea my weapon wont be dwnleveled but it IS harder to raise levels when they have their macro set to your same route and they keep popping and killing everything in the room stealing your kills. Im leveling weapons that require close contact and they pop in with a bow and can take everything out. And as for afk check, ive been leveling for a month straight and havent gotten checked once. So if you wanna check for yourself to tell a gm whether someone is afk leveling the sound all the way up actually does work cause i know someone who used to do it. And i dont care if you use a macro to make leveling easier, the problem is they have macros to do ALL the work. So im actually at the keyboard working on leveling (which i hate) and they are raising levels without actually being on so there is a reason to complain.

[krumhur]

i have been checked 2 times since i use a macro and both times i didnt get a PM, but the GM popped nearby and had a short chat with me.

I can understand the nuisance of ppl teleporting and killing your mobs, but really, if you are in the good/best spots, all you can do is ask to take turns, as stated by rule 6.a of the codex, anything beyond that is just complaining about competition.

Maybe weap XP has to be balanced across all mobs, something based on mobs total stats and their resistances (a sort of difficulty rating), it would not solve the unattented weap lvling issue the OP talks about, but it would help lessen the farm/grind in the usual spots, and make it easier for everyone to lvl their weap.

And yeah, i hate weap lvling too, thats why i run a macro even if i'm at the keyboard..cant really stand to doing the same thing over and over

[Tahris Nayloc]

I wasn't "complaining about the competition" . I respect that many people use those leveling areas. I just want people to respect ME when I'm already fighting a monster! Just because people already have a route and I find myself in it and they pop in, that doesn't give them the right to let their auto-mated system kill whatever I'm already fighting. They pop in and auto-target so fast, there isn't even a chance to say anything.

I'm not against doing it as an automated process and keeping the screen within view. I do that with several things myself. But the expectation of respectful playing shouldn't be dropped simply because those areas get crowded and because they're on an automated loop.

[azure]

There is a pattern lately of people doing a leveling route that is fairly automated. This seems to consist of recalling into one tile in the midst of a mob, auto targeting and killing with a bow, and then recalling to the next location.

The problem then arises if someone else is already in that the midst of that mob, and is killing something, the person on the route who recalls in is auto targeting the same mob that is already being killed and generally ends up stealing the kill.

If this was happening just once or twice to just myself, I wouldn't mind it but it's been the case on me several times and several of my guild-mates have also had this situation arise. I will recall around on a route myself when leveling, but I don't use auto-targeting macros when I'm doing so.

I just feel it's a little discourteous to not manage your macro in such a way that you end up stealing kills. If players could be mindful of this, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks!

Ya, same thing happened to me repeatedly the other day. *shrugs* consider the source I guess.....

[anarchy]

here's the rules

6. Behavior, attitude towards other players:
a. If there is more than one player at a spawn, the players must take turns. Once a player kills/tames a monster or takes/steals an item, he or she must go in the back of the line and wait for others to get their turn.

if you whirlwind or area damage all the monsters then logically they are all your kills. that person needs to wait till you make your kills then he gets his turn at the monster/monsters.

if you only target one monster and he kills another, then that is legal, but your talking about a kill steal so it's illegal, and should be screen shot and reported.

[Cash Monei']

Personally, I think some impressions are a little mistaken about what's going on here. I run leveling macros, and have been maybe longer than anyone. I always sit in front of the monitor while running them. As I have told the staff on numerous occasions, and they have said it was fine, I study or practice guitar scales while it runs.
AS far as kill stealing, I'm sure most people are aware that when you recall into an area, random monsters will target you. I don't think monsters that are engaged do, but i could be wrong. If there is an "uber targeting system" out there, would someone send me one with a lazer site and white walls?
I was informed today that several people had complained about ME to staff over kill stealing and probably other things. The macro i currently run is recalling every four seconds. Not alot of time to perpetrate such haneous crimes, but if it's happening in my case, it's the AI in the game doing it. I also have a claim written in, which should cause no problems to anyone because of the fact you can't loot others kills. Again, if this is happening, it's programming, not the player. ANY player!
Everyone who levels has had players kill jump them, for whatever reason, it's the way the game works. For the players that feel I've done them wrong, it was not intentional. Thi8nk hard about whether you've ever recalled in and got an insta kill...
Shame on us all!

[Tahris Nayloc]

Cash, if you aren't implementing an auto-targeting macro, then I wasn't aiming my point at you . It's relatively easy to string up a razor macro that auto-targets repeatedly and it's very much helpful but for those who don't pay enough attention to it, this leads to kill stealing.

I guess its not really a huge issue because its not like the ONE monster is gonna cause me to not get a level on my weapon. It was more a post out of awareness than anything.

[Cash Monei']

Unattended activities should be policed, and I can attest to the fact that they are. People absolutely should be watching their macroes run. I don't get upset with people having issues. To all of you not naming names: sack up, use mine so I know there is an issue.

[azure]

Cash, you weren't the one recalling in a kill stealing, YES killing a monster I was already fighting, But if you can't control the macros to prevent this, you shouldnt' be running them since it seems kill stealing is against the rule

[Ishamael]

wow, three pages of comments on this Topic and runnin. I think a GM needs to kill this thread. Does someone afk leveling a wep hurt me? Not at all. Big deal, move on. )

[Calan Caitin]

wow, three pages of comments on this Topic and runnin. I think a GM needs to kill this thread. Does someone afk leveling a wep hurt me? Not at all. Big deal, move on. )

While it may not hurt you directly, it does hurt the community as a whole and thus the reason why it is against the rules to do. Did entering the Bedlam crypts as a ghost really hurt anyone directly? And yet it was recognized as an exploit and promptly fixed. I think anyone caught AFK macroing, which would have to be policed, should have the weapon confiscated by staff; which I believe is what the codex states as what would happen. As for your thoughts about a GM needing to kill this thread, unless it is getting drug down to just a name calling thread, why would they need to close it? Everyone should have the right to voice their opinion on the topic. You did.

[Ishamael]

Well, I am pretty sure the wonderful staff here keep tabs on topical discussions in the forums. If they have a problem with AFK leveling they will do something about it. I just think your whipping a dead horse here. No offense intended.