Selling a good relayer, ultimate quiver slot

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I would say Melkor was giving his opinion.regardless of what you think about the advice given. i would say calling him a troll would just be yet another flaming for no reason.so which makes you a better person in the end flaming or trolling?anyways both opinions had bits off truth in them but in the end i would say buying this wouldnt fit my toon and would much rather build my own.
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I would say that Melker claims that SDI and RPD are useless is misleading players. I don't care you buy or not, or how you build your gears.
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Holypal wrote:I would say that Melker claims that SDI and RPD are useless is misleading players. I don't care you buy or not, or how you build your gears.

To be clear, I said "mostly useless" and "Not very useful"

Relax guys, I was asked to explain my opinion and I stand by it based on how I like my gear. Each will have their own opinion, who cares.

For me I got three relayers, 4 mage armor pieces, mage armored jackal's collar and great jewlery. I get plenty of SDI from the mage armor for its limited use, and I get plenty of resists. RPD to me is minimal usefulness at best, especially when compared to the stronger magical effects like i said in my post. If someone wants to relayer everything they wear, sure they will need resists. But for me only the few new custom areas in the game present anything of a challenge, so for me my gear is perfect, actually, its too strong. That relayer would suck for my purposes.

Yea I prolly should have just kept my mouth shut, but i didn't.
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OK, "mostly useless".

As i said, if you only wear 3 relayers in the end, this one i'm selling is not good for you. You need DI, DCI and HCI on the three relayers. This one is for players who want to be better fighters, who not only a archer with a bow, but a melee fighter with a WW weapon has a lot of hit spells; who aimed to have have 10+ relayers.
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I WW in Verts events just fine with my gear. And in Labyrinth as well.
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Melkor wrote:I WW in Verts events just fine with my gear. And in Labyrinth as well.

To survive is a matter of hp, dex and bandages, but a good fighter is more than that, is to kill faster than other players. And SDI and RPD really help to kill faster. The difference between 3 and 10 relayers is fine and UBer.
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Cant help it. Tried to stay quiet. No offence Melkor but you're just wrong on your interpretation of the value of stats on relayers. SDI is the first thing i add to any relayer. It is uncapped and very useful. RPD is (was) the 2nd thing i add to any relayer (it is now at the cap so i dont add it anymore). RPD is very important when hunting high end mobs. Both SDI and RPD speed up your kills which immensely. DI, HCI and DCI are the more useless stats. They are fine and good to get up to (and well over) their respective caps but you can really do that in one single relayer. After that they aren't even a consideration. I havent put any of those on my last few relayers.

All said and done i don't think its fair to compare this relayer to a titan's in any way, its nowhere near as good. IMO its nowhere near as good as a bone crusher. Once you hit alll the caps the only important stat is HP, and both of those items will add more HP than this can. It is good, but it is far from the best relayer I have seen. It's fairly standard IMO. The resists are great, if you are in need of resists.
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qbf wrote:Cant help it. Tried to stay quiet. No offence Melkor but you're just wrong on your interpretation of the value of stats on relayers. SDI is the first thing i add to any relayer. It is uncapped and very useful. RPD is (was) the 2nd thing i add to any relayer (it is now at the cap so i dont add it anymore). RPD is very important when hunting high end mobs. Both SDI and RPD speed up your kills which immensely. DI, HCI and DCI are the more useless stats. They are fine and good to get up to (and well over) their respective caps but you can really do that in one single relayer. After that they aren't even a consideration. I havent put any of those on my last few relayers.

All said and done i don't think its fair to compare this relayer to a titan's in any way, its nowhere near as good. IMO its nowhere near as good as a bone crusher. Once you hit alll the caps the only important stat is HP, and both of those items will add more HP than this can. It is good, but it is far from the best relayer I have seen. It's fairly standard IMO. The resists are great, if you are in need of resists.

Thanks. I also like titan or bone crusher for relayers. I already realyered two bone crushers because i can't get titans. For the resists, i think it's good to have one and only one relayer that aimed for resists, like this one. Other relayers going for artis like titan or bone crusher or SoT. I mean it is hard to max resists just by 15 titans/bonecrushers in the end, without GoC armors. Maybe one can, but it is very costy.

I agree that this one is far from the best relayer, but it is good in the relayers that aimed for resists. I saw many players have such kind of relayers that for resists. For example, a lot ppl use Cavorting Club. And in my mind, Butcher Resolve is not so good.
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Ultimately...different strokes for different folks...

I know I have a couple relayers what would NOT be first choice relayer configurations. They have like...SDI, LRC, Phys Ref, and a bunch of resists like this one. The huge benefit of spending points toward resists on relayers, is for the reason stated multiple times already...freedom from making tough decisions.

"Do I use this high resists gorget, or this Jackals Collar to give me that much needed dex boost?"

How about I pick up the resists on my planned custom piece, and I make the choice much easier for myself?
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Tis a nice relayer. Has like 16 pertinent stats to a relayer; the SL and Lightning obviously weren't added, it was a nice 3x18, 2x46 wep. or 4x18.
Resists are awesome on a relayer. Negates the need for pants with 80% resists, considering how crappy Gloves of Pug/Jackals/Headband or SoTs resists are. And they look perty on relayers.
My quiver has 21 or 22 stats on it. Resists ftw.
This isn't a first relayer purchase, I don't think I saw LMC on there. Or 1 FC. Which are both good plays.
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Oh. Right
SDI is one of the two most important stats on a relayer
There's no cap to SPD. My lightning proc is 85dmg or so.
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I don't mean to take advantage from others. i was hoping to sell for 900EDs. 500 for the relayer deed and 400 for leveling to 100. The good base weapon is free. And it is good leveled. Thanks.

Sometimes may find a weapon with 4*14% resist, but not a good type to level, such as dagger or cleaver... It is a pain to level such a weapon to 100. Unless you spend 200ED to change the type.
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