how to level a weapon like a champ

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depends on how many ointments you can get in 6 hours o.O also can you watch a movie while getting those oints. this way you could watch 3-2 hour movies or do some homework. or do face book, while doing so. can you harvest ointments and watch a movie, do homework, or facebook? then i guess it would be more equal. :)
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good stuff anarchy... when it's on topic :P
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Don't forget the best part of this topic is now there's even more mindless zombies teleporting around Doom now attacking the mobs others are already attacking without the slightest bit of courtesy or even knowledge that they are annoying and kill stealing from people who are actually PLAYING the game.
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and don't forget it's pretty much impossible to report them! (well not the reporting part, the them getting in trouble part)

p.s. i still don't see why recalling is allowed into doom. should be a no recall zone
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bump
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Cornbread wrote:Don't forget the best part of this topic is now there's even more mindless zombies teleporting around Doom now attacking the mobs others are already attacking without the slightest bit of courtesy or even knowledge that they are annoying and kill stealing from people who are actually PLAYING the game.
Exactly this...
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Unfortunately this happened to me again last night, whilst at a spawn in pops a recaller right on the spawn and kills the mob, I tried to speak to the person about it but no reply, so I asked in public and after about 5mins they replied and credit to the person they did apologize, if they apologize I can accept that, but I also got flamed for mentioning it in public, one person just told me to accept it and move on, saying that the spawns are very quick in Doom, so if they are very quick why are they recalling if not to speed up the leveling process.

I too recall, but at a fair distance away from the spawn and then move in for the kill if it's free, if I see someone there, I will move on, and sometimes I will even stop and chat :)
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I recall for my weapon leveling and macros WILL automatically slaughter whats within reach. Macros are really a nice help, only problem is they dont reason, if they see someone there they wont stop themselves and tell you " Oh Hey, sorry I almost took your kill, go on ahead its yours :D " The only solution I have seen is exactly what Starion says, DO NOT recall directly on top of the spawn, recall a few feet away and you can add in your macro to walk you a few steps. I would say they should make Doom a no recall zone, if you really want to level your weapon then actually play, but thats unrealistic. Not everyone can play all day every day, so if they only get to play a few hours this means they either need to level a weapon or make the gold to pay for it being done. And some people dont play long enough to afford the cost of hiring someone to do it. People are stealing kills but thats not the macros/recallings fault, its the person who decides to not even consider their fellow players and sets it up to spawn RIGHT on top. Seriously, just add a few steps to your macro, people will appreciate the consideration. :nod:
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The same part of the macro that searches for kills can also be used to spot a person, Therefore it's only a small mod that needs to be made to stop it from attacking anything if there is a person there. I'll have a go at writing it into the script I use. If there is a general script on the forum that most people use let me know and I'll reprogram that one for you all.
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That'd be perfect bearman. I'd love to get the code on player detection, EUO preferably, as I'm not good enough at coding to write it myself. :(
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Honestly I think a large part of the issue is how long it takes to level up a weapon. The process is so numbing that people would be crazy to not do it half afk while watching a movie. Killing monsters that are actually a challenge to a higher level player, such as peerless yield much less exp per hour to killing something that is defeated in 2 hits and is no challenge such as liches. When I first started the shard, before I started to macro level, I had completed 6 GoCs and only got the weapon I was using the entire time to about level 50.

Even with killing only liches it can still take 100+ hours to get a weapon to level 100, and that's why everyone has to macro it because some players like to have 3-4 different weapons on hand. Unfortunately there really isn't a good solution to that issue. If weapons were made easier to level, it would be possible for a player to max them through normal game play rather then macroing, yet then everyone has very easy access to ideal relayering material. I sometimes feel relayering has opened a can of worms on this shard that can't be shut, but I use it myself and wouldn't be able to solo melee things like grizzley without it, so I guess I can't protest to much.

I think the best solution might be to not adjust how much exp it takes to level a weapon, but to have more difficult monsters give much more weapon exp, such as making high level monsters (that are a threat to the player) give 1000 exp where it only takes killing 1000 of them through normal gameplay to max a weapons level, yet that still encounters the issue where as relayering is done those higher level monsters become much easier. For a bit about me I've relayered 3 times and have got 4 weapons to level 100 (through lich macroing where I was at my keyboard working on other things)
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NewPlayer241 wrote: Even with killing only liches it can still take 100+ hours to get a weapon to level 100, and that's why everyone has to macro it because some players like to have 3-4 different weapons on hand.
I'm into having monsters that take 3-4 minutes to kill give a worthwhile amount of experience but i think the above might be a bit of an over statement. If your nose is to the grindstone a conservative estimate for hours to reach 999900 is about 50.5 hours.
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Looks like you might be rig
Dj Sticky wrote:
NewPlayer241 wrote: Even with killing only liches it can still take 100+ hours to get a weapon to level 100, and that's why everyone has to macro it because some players like to have 3-4 different weapons on hand.
I'm into having monsters that take 3-4 minutes to kill give a worthwhile amount of experience but i think the above might be a bit of an over statement. If your nose is to the grindstone a conservative estimate for hours to reach 999900 is about 50.5 hours.
Looks like you might be right there. For for a level to reach a max weapon is 990,000, each lich provides about 150 exp if I remember right. So 6520 liches, provided you can kill a liche every 30 seconds of macroing (including time to recall and other macrors) then that's 185,600 seconds of liche killing, divide that by 60 twice and you come up with 55 hours of nonstop killing liches.
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I think liches have received a nerf in the recent past. 40-60k per tram lich seems to be the amount now.
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