Taming Bod Rewards
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:29 pm
Just wanted to give my feedback on these.
So I started here a few months ago. Stuff on this server seems a bit stronger for someone with no relayers, which are expensive so I decided to go with the taming approach first. Use pets to farm $, get relayers and then go solo etc.
So to maximize I wanted to get atleast some wrestle PS for my 5 imps. I look on the uoex vendor search and there were like 2 or 3 total. I bought the 2 setup for gold, and now there is only 1 left that is super expensive and for ED.
As such the ones on the market were months old even, nothing new or current. I decided, well I will just strat collecting bods and get them myself. After 3-4 weeks of collecting bods on 5 characters each day, I had enough do start filling a few LBods. Let me tell you, filling these takes forever. It isn't like other crafting where you just set the macro to make you 20 of something in 10 seconds. A 20 6 piece LBod (even for non-agro stuff you can find in the taming practice area) takes over an hour. The delay it takes to try and tame something, then running around and finding it.. it's a lot of work.
So I go turn in my first LBod that I took a lot of time to collect bods and tame 120 creatures for. I get the Bio engineering book. I am sure that's great for someone looking to breed pets, but upon searching and seeing plenty for sale for 10k, it was a pretty big let-down honestly. So fast forward a few day to when I had enough SBods to fill another LBod. I take another hour taming. I turn it in and get a pile of organics. That's marginally better than a 10k book, getting like 125-150kk of EXEX but still, for the time invested it feels a bit sub-standard a reward for the highest tier (6x 20 pc LBOD). Another week and I have enough bods to do another Lbod. This time I get some etheral leather. Again, some gold fodder for EXEX for me, but still.
If taming a creature was instant or something, perhaps it would be different since it would be easier to fill, but there are 5 per PS, atleast 3-4 normal BOD, a book, leather and organics. That's like a 1/12 chance to get what you are looking for in exchange for 60+ min of work. That's a large time investment for a 1/12 chance to get what you need.
Let's compare to the changes make to smithy LBods. According to the wiki page, all smithy LBods have 2 possible rewards. I can look at what I am doing and know what I am getting. If I want a Plat smithy hammer, I know if I do X bod I have a 50% chance to get that or a sharpening blade. Not to mention to fill that bod I can simply buy ingots off exex, and fill the whole bod in less than 5 min.
Also, due to the fact that more and more aren't being put up on the store, it means the people in general don't think that the payoff for the time invested is worth it. If those PS sold for 10m all day long, people would be doing them more but since they aren't if feels like people aren't engaging with your sysmte much, else we would see more of these PS being found and sold? Yes?
My suggestion is to only change the reward bundles. This leaves much less coding to be done to adjust. You can make it so people can better predict what they are going to get for their time invested. Right now you have organics as an option on every reward tier, + clothing on all but 4 of them, a leather type on all of them (some repeated from the 20 of one number to the 10 of the next higher number being the same). It just feels likeyou can tighten it up a bit.
I think you understand where I am coming from, list out the specific scrolls you can get. and limit each "box" on the grid to 2-3 things. Having a shot at 12 different things just feels bad. I am definitely not excited to go do more bods with my chance at getting a PS.
So I started here a few months ago. Stuff on this server seems a bit stronger for someone with no relayers, which are expensive so I decided to go with the taming approach first. Use pets to farm $, get relayers and then go solo etc.
So to maximize I wanted to get atleast some wrestle PS for my 5 imps. I look on the uoex vendor search and there were like 2 or 3 total. I bought the 2 setup for gold, and now there is only 1 left that is super expensive and for ED.
As such the ones on the market were months old even, nothing new or current. I decided, well I will just strat collecting bods and get them myself. After 3-4 weeks of collecting bods on 5 characters each day, I had enough do start filling a few LBods. Let me tell you, filling these takes forever. It isn't like other crafting where you just set the macro to make you 20 of something in 10 seconds. A 20 6 piece LBod (even for non-agro stuff you can find in the taming practice area) takes over an hour. The delay it takes to try and tame something, then running around and finding it.. it's a lot of work.
So I go turn in my first LBod that I took a lot of time to collect bods and tame 120 creatures for. I get the Bio engineering book. I am sure that's great for someone looking to breed pets, but upon searching and seeing plenty for sale for 10k, it was a pretty big let-down honestly. So fast forward a few day to when I had enough SBods to fill another LBod. I take another hour taming. I turn it in and get a pile of organics. That's marginally better than a 10k book, getting like 125-150kk of EXEX but still, for the time invested it feels a bit sub-standard a reward for the highest tier (6x 20 pc LBOD). Another week and I have enough bods to do another Lbod. This time I get some etheral leather. Again, some gold fodder for EXEX for me, but still.
If taming a creature was instant or something, perhaps it would be different since it would be easier to fill, but there are 5 per PS, atleast 3-4 normal BOD, a book, leather and organics. That's like a 1/12 chance to get what you are looking for in exchange for 60+ min of work. That's a large time investment for a 1/12 chance to get what you need.
Let's compare to the changes make to smithy LBods. According to the wiki page, all smithy LBods have 2 possible rewards. I can look at what I am doing and know what I am getting. If I want a Plat smithy hammer, I know if I do X bod I have a 50% chance to get that or a sharpening blade. Not to mention to fill that bod I can simply buy ingots off exex, and fill the whole bod in less than 5 min.
Also, due to the fact that more and more aren't being put up on the store, it means the people in general don't think that the payoff for the time invested is worth it. If those PS sold for 10m all day long, people would be doing them more but since they aren't if feels like people aren't engaging with your sysmte much, else we would see more of these PS being found and sold? Yes?
My suggestion is to only change the reward bundles. This leaves much less coding to be done to adjust. You can make it so people can better predict what they are going to get for their time invested. Right now you have organics as an option on every reward tier, + clothing on all but 4 of them, a leather type on all of them (some repeated from the 20 of one number to the 10 of the next higher number being the same). It just feels likeyou can tighten it up a bit.
I think you understand where I am coming from, list out the specific scrolls you can get. and limit each "box" on the grid to 2-3 things. Having a shot at 12 different things just feels bad. I am definitely not excited to go do more bods with my chance at getting a PS.