Bee tutorial (sorta)

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I need help :( My two hives are -not- next to each other. They were VERY difficult to establish and one has been especially stubborn. For two weeks, one of them one never even register that it had adequate flowers, even though it had 2 poppies, 1 campion, and some other plant near it, it would never give the yellow + it was always blank. SO FRUSTRATING! Then the other one was Yellow + water and Yellow + flowers, no problem and it was set up the same freaking way on the other side of my patio. It doesn't seem right that two hives set up the same way wouldn't flower and water check the same.

Anyway, now they're both showing GREEN + water and GREEN + flower. What does that mean?

Do they have too many flowers and too much water? Do I need to remove some flowers? Do they need more? They have 3 flowers each poppies and campion. If I have less than that, the second hive would never register a flower check. Also, I have a trough about 3 squares from the hives, is that too close?

Is it a potion check for health or strength?

I have asked on chat several times what these symbols mean. No one knows. I get told to check the wiki. It's not there. If it was, I wouldn't keep trying to find someone who knows something about beekeeping and what the heck is wrong with my bees. According to the wiki, a green plus means population growth but my hives are thriving at 100k, so there's no more growth they can do.
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http://www.uoex.net/wiki/Apiculture_(be ... eekeeping)
its all in there, look for the picture that tells you what all the icons mean.
everwolf wrote:Great Info here but I could use more Beekeeping Info such as what peoples experiances are with how many hives per house, does spacing affect health and or growth. Is the bee epidemic still going on or what has it caused.
30 hives per house. any more and they dont produce as much. this system has replaced the epidemic. ive got all mine in a row with flowers and water pitcher under each and every one. i tend them once a day. they actually get easier to look after the older they get cos you can macro it. i feed them 1 agility, 1 cure and 1 poison potion everyday.
Kile Morgan wrote:I've looked around and read on the beehives, I've started plants and almost maxed alchemy to support both. Have a hive started and is now producing honey and raw beeswax. Nothing I have read as of yet says what to use on the raw beeswax. The pots won't work with it. Clicking the wax itself is nothing. I think it's the only basic part I can't find anything on.
buy a small wax pot from the beekeepers
stand near a stone oven
double click the wax pot
add raw wax (255 max per use) then click on render
double click the now full of refined wax pot and empty it
you should now have slumgum and useable beeswax

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Your link is a dead link or it doesn't post right? Anyway, unfortunately, nothing you posted or quoted answered any of my questions. :(

I guess you just assumed I didn't read the wiki or talk to people or explore every option I could find before I turned to the forums to ask.

What I want to know is where does it say anything about what GREEN plus signs on FLOWERS and WATER means? This is what I have going on now that I need explained. I don't know what to do. I don't know how to change them to yellow plus signs.

What do Blanks next to Flowers mean? I have had this problem, too. One hive went from BLANK to MINUS to PLUS GREEN, what the hell is a plus green? And it's set up EXACTLY the same with the EXACT resources of the other hive which went from Blank to Plus Yellow to PLUS GREEN Flowers and Water.

I didn't ask what to do with wax. I didn't ask how many bee hives I can have. I have stuff showing up that there is NO information on. I have colors and symbols in places that are NOT explained.

Please note, I am -not- talking about the PLUS BLUE in the upper right hand corner. I have unexplained symbols on the flowers and water only, everything else is explained. The only thing the wiki says about Flowers and Water is plus yellow is good. But I can't get it to show plus yellow.

Please, can anyone help? Does anyone know? Does green mean TOO MUCH? Do I need to remove flower and water sources? Do I need to add more? Is it a signal for certain potions?
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Viola wrote:What I want to know is where does it say anything about what GREEN plus signs on FLOWERS and WATER means? This is what I have going on now that I need explained. I don't know what to do. I don't know how to change them to yellow plus signs.
Speaking practically, I don't think it matters what color the plus sign is as long as you have one. I've had yellow plus and green plus on the same hives and it has made no difference as far as I can tell.
What do Blanks next to Flowers mean? I have had this problem, too. One hive went from BLANK to MINUS to PLUS GREEN, what the hell is a plus green? And it's set up EXACTLY the same with the EXACT resources of the other hive which went from Blank to Plus Yellow to PLUS GREEN Flowers and Water.
This sounds like a bug to me. But if the hive produces the same as the other one, and isn't consistently infested, I'd suggest that in all practical respects, it doesn't matter.
Please, can anyone help? Does anyone know? Does green mean TOO MUCH? Do I need to remove flower and water sources? Do I need to add more? Is it a signal for certain potions?
I don't think the green is very significant. But tell me this: does it sometimes happen that your hives are neither infested nor diseased? There's a random element to this, and if sometimes they are completely healthy, then I'd say that there's nothing wrong and you need adjust nothing.
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Viola wrote:Your link is a dead link or it doesn't post right? Anyway, unfortunately, nothing you posted or quoted answered any of my questions. :(

I guess you just assumed I didn't read the wiki or talk to people or explore every option I could find before I turned to the forums to ask.

What I want to know is where does it say anything about what GREEN plus signs on FLOWERS and WATER means? This is what I have going on now that I need explained. I don't know what to do. I don't know how to change them to yellow plus signs.

What do Blanks next to Flowers mean? I have had this problem, too. One hive went from BLANK to MINUS to PLUS GREEN, what the hell is a plus green? And it's set up EXACTLY the same with the EXACT resources of the other hive which went from Blank to Plus Yellow to PLUS GREEN Flowers and Water.

I didn't ask what to do with wax. I didn't ask how many bee hives I can have. I have stuff showing up that there is NO information on. I have colors and symbols in places that are NOT explained.

Please note, I am -not- talking about the PLUS BLUE in the upper right hand corner. I have unexplained symbols on the flowers and water only, everything else is explained. The only thing the wiki says about Flowers and Water is plus yellow is good. But I can't get it to show plus yellow.

Please, can anyone help? Does anyone know? Does green mean TOO MUCH? Do I need to remove flower and water sources? Do I need to add more? Is it a signal for certain potions?
yeah sorry about the link, dont know why it doesnt show any text. its not a dead link but just isnt working :(

anyway, the other comments i made were in response to other peoples questions hence the quotes.

with regards to the green plus symbol i cant find anywhere that says what it means. what i do know is if you put campion flowers and a pitcher of water under the hive you cant go wrong. it cant not have enough flowers or water and they will be successful. so dont worry about what colour the symbol is. if you want ill show you my set up. just [pm kharn. :D
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-> Here's the link <-

On the 'broken' link, the parentheses (parenthesis?) on the right wasn't part of it.
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Thank you very much!

Okay, my hives usually need a poison or a cure every day, which is why I think there is something wrong. I'm trying to add heal or strength to get rid of the green plus. Yesterday the green plus on flowers went to yellow plus after I added strength the night before, but this morning they were back to green as I did not add strength yesterday. So, now I'm starting to think it's a potion signal--just like how you give potions to flowers based on what is directly across from the potion bottle on their menu.

Also, I removed the water trough from my porch today and put it on my roof near my flowers. I'll know if that helped anything tomorrow. Each hive still has it's own water pitcher, so hopefully it will be ok.
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Viola wrote:Okay, my hives usually need a poison or a cure every day, which is why I think there is something wrong.
No, if they needed the same thing every day, that might indicate a problem. The normal situation is randomly needing one, the other, both, or none of GP and GC.
I'm trying to add heal or strength to get rid of the green plus.
This is a waste of potions IMO. The green plus for flowers doesn't seem to hurt anything on my hives, so I don't worry about it. The GH and GS are for when your hives are unhealthy---if they're thriving/healthy, you don't need them.
Also, I removed the water trough from my porch today and put it on my roof near my flowers. I'll know if that helped anything tomorrow. Each hive still has it's own water pitcher, so hopefully it will be ok.
One full water pitcher for each hive is all the water they need. That's what I have for all 30 of my hives.
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I just started my own beehive tonight for the first time and while I was searching I found this http://www.runuo.com/forums/custom-scri ... eping.html


Read towards the bottom it will tell you what the colors mean for +, -, and !
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Ok, this is my issue... I have 3 rows of 5 beehives. On each beehive I have a plant and a water pitcher. The last row was added about a week ago. Before adding the last row everything seemed to be fine. So what's happening now is that on the 2nd row one of the beehive went from sickly to dying, while all other beehives are either healthy or thriving. I tend my beehives every single day and give them the respective potions that are required. What I don't seem to understand is how come from sickly it went to dying (from 100K went down to 90K bees) even though I gave it the required potions? Is this normal or a glitch? I do have water through placed quite far away from the beehives and it's been there since day one. Hasn't given me this type of problem before... flower and water levels all show a ' yellow ' + sign. Have anybody experience something similar to this?

To give you a better idea of what it looks like I am going to make a diagram of the way I placed the beehives. H = Healthy, T= Thriving , S = Sickly, X = beehive with the problem.

row 1. [H] [T] [T] [H] [T] = all at 100K bees

row 2. [H] [H] [T] [X] [H] = all at 100K bees minus the dying one with 90K bees

row 3. [H] [S] [H] [H] [T] = all at 40K ~ 50K bees

Any suggestion or solutions will be very well appreciate it. :nod:
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I have a water pitcher on every other hive, for all 25 of my hives, and they're all 100k and healthy. You definitely don't need a pitcher on every hive, just an FYI.
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I also use a water pitcher and flower for each hive, and it's fine, even if not strictly necessary. The potions I use are 2 GA, 1 each GC, GP, and GS every day, My hives have been consistently thriving for hundreds of days, except of course when I occasionally miss a reset, but before I started applying the GS, every day, I used to get health variations.

So if you're not using GS every day, it wouldn't hurt to try it.
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Side wrote:I have a water pitcher on every other hive, for all 25 of my hives, and they're all 100k and healthy. You definitely don't need a pitcher on every hive, just an FYI.
Yup.. I have had hives for 2 years. recently quit because I am tired of the changes and struggles to fix up sickly bees when I have to be away, which seems more often lately.

I ended up, with one flower and one pitcher of water for every other hive. Some hives had green plus's and some yellow. I could never determine a difference in productivity.

I went from two flowers, and one pitcher of water for every hive, to one pitcher of water for every other hive, and one flower for every three hives, and got all the plus signs to green... it seemed to make no difference in productivity.. OR the potions needed to take care of the bees.
the only thing that seems to make a difference is using a greater str potion.. sometimes using a greater str means you need no poison or cure at all, sometimes, just one or the other.. in the long run, you still use about the same amount of potions using the greater str, or not, and adding a cure and poison every day..

the last I knew.. Coli changed bees to stop us from having a hundred hives. The limit was 20 per house, after 20 we would start getting unproductive hives... however, if people now have 30 and are not getting constant 0 productivity that may have changed, haven't heard it changed but its possible.
I have recently also had hives suddenly go to dying, with only 20. thriving one day, and dying the next.
Now that my wife can no longer take care of my bees for me when I have to be gone... the bees are gone. I see no point in pumping potions into them if they wont produce.
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Green plus sign= Growth
Yellow plus sign= Smaller Growth

You wont notice a difference in production due to the fact u have your hives at max populacction.

Now do note i KNOW NOTHING of bees YET. . . . thats just my conclusion of what i read
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My hives are thriving but require cure and poison every day. Can I reduce the need for these Potions?
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