The whole world doesn't revolve around you!

[Thorgal]

Today, and for the second time since i have been on the shard, a player said to another (and no names will be mentionned) just report him! Just report him $!%$?%%#$%&?

This happened after i was exploring Doom to find this chest where titan hammer spawned and stumbled upon Titan Gardians. After noticing they spawned everytime i entered a certain area, i decided to try and take them on, so took out my mules and Cu and attacked them. Ok that was a mistake... after all my pets died, i started to back off since i only had 38 hit points left and i didn't wanna die too close to the spawn so i could get my body back without too much complication. But one step out of my screen a player was killing a spawn, the titans followed me and he got killed! I did not flee, just turned the corner to heal up a bit and went back to rez him. But mister X was nowhere to be found. After i managed to get my pets back, the said player came back telling me it wasn't cool aggroing that mob on him! I didn't realy understand at that time what he ment but when i caught up to him again i simply told him that it was all a misunderstanding, that i wasn't trying to lure the mob on him, i did not even know he was there. That's when it happened... i dont know if it was a friend of his or just someone who was there at the time, but that's when he said just report him, right then and there i got so pissed off i logged off to make sure i didn't do or say something stupid.

So this post is basicaly to dennounce one of two things; first, everyone this is just a game, if you are too caught up into it and are affraid of dying, STAY IN TOWN or go hunt in despise. The whole world doesn't revolve around you, and dungeons aren't yours and yours only... learn to live with the fact that sometimes players might get overwelmed with a certain mob, and you are just going to be on the same path they are using to either flee or back off to! Second of all, i know this is a family shard and kids might be playing around you, but please dont act like one, dont go crying to staff or threathen to do so everytime something goes wrong or someone makes a mistake or takes a bad decision that could get you in a hot spot, like i said this is just a game, stop acting like little kids, grow up!

[BlaZe]

+1

Well said mate, I couldn't agree with you more. Honestly, you had every right to tell mister X to bug off.. Those Titan Guardians definitely pack a punch, but they're slow as hell. If he died from them, its because he was either AFK or trying to take them down - in either case, it isn't your responsibility to make sure he's okay.

[Tribecca]

Cheers to you! They are tough buggars.

[Gwendolyn]

+1

Well said mate, I couldn't agree with you more. Honestly, you had every right to tell mister X to bug off.. Those Titan Guardians definitely pack a punch, but they're slow as hell. If he died from them, its because he was either AFK or trying to take them down - in either case, it isn't your responsibility to make sure he's okay.

The titan guardians should just be removed.

They're an unnecessary addition to the game. I don't know how many people were suposedly "Camping" the spawn, but who ever put those in, is taking a veritas approach to the situation, trying to use a 50 pound block of C4 to take out a single rat.

SImply making hiding in that area would have sufficed.

I like to level my weapons in that area(as everybody knows) and i've had the titans guardians drug onto me on more than one occasion and i -can- kill them, but its still a great nusance to have to deal with.

The GM's punished everybody on the shard when they put those stupid things in, not just the one(Or two?) people who were script stealing the titans hammers.

[BlaZe]

The titan guardians should just be removed. They're an unnecessary addition to the game .. I like to level my weapons in that area(as everybody knows) and i've had the titans guardians drug onto me on more than one occasion and i -can- kill them, but its still a great nusance to have to deal with.

The GM's punished everybody on the shard when they put those stupid things in, not just the one(Or two?) people who were script stealing the titans hammers.

Many players like to level their weapons in Doom, mostly because of the quick respawn. If the same spawn rate applied to all other dungeons... who knows?

I'm satisfied with the addition of the Guardians because it prevents people from going to bed, turning on a script/macro and waking up with one of the best weapons in the game in their possession. If that means I have to outrun another +V-esque mob, "oh noooo what will i do?" then its a small price to pay. ^^

Again, if players are getting rocked by Guardians then its because they're AFK/AFW/AF(insert-whatever-here) or they're overconfident in their abilities and deserve to get those colossus blows.

[Gwendolyn]

If the same spawn rate applied to all other dungeons... who knows?

This is a Fantastic Idea.

[Nelapsi]

I am with others, I love them and in fact was a bit sad to see that area get toned down from the original concept. I still remember that first time wandering into that area, everything looked like normal and then this crazy screen came up stating "You are dead". I was like, impossible this is doom!!!

I've noticed especially in doom, certain players seem to think they have more right to be there then others. I avoid it

[Melkor]

I love the edition of the Titan’s Guardians, just for that fact they are tough monsters to battle. I wish there were more difficult monsters around. Even when I was a few months old with a team of Nobles, many, if not most dungeons presented little trouble. Its true you gotta have lots of easier areas for new players that don’t want to get pets, but some harder stuff, around the level of the Titan’s Guardians, say in a few Tam dungeons would give a new reason to go into them, for the thrill of battle.

That’s right +V, I’m calling it on lol

[+Veritas]

=)

Well, it is definitely a veritas approach to the situation....I did it.

kaBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM MUAHAHAA MUAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!

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But in all seriousness...the blocking of the hiding skill was indeed done. Then I saw people macroing invisibility, then I made a fast-acting revealing measure. Then I saw a person macro-recalling in, so I disabled all traveling methods out of that area. Then, I saw a great attempt to sit there as a ghost and wait for the hammer to spawn, then use self-res when its there and snag it...*claps* bravo. Now, there is an auto-mover in the area that moves people in the immediate area away from the table if they are dead...

When people start using newer and multiple methods of going around the natural intent of things, then a natural reaction would be to implement newer and multiple blocks to those methods. The guardians are slow, and have no ranged attack. They are designed to kill afk individuals who can stand there and run an auto attacker and auto healer macro, while also running a script to target nearby war hammers and use the stealing skill on them...I will lower their movement speed even more after this post. If they still kill you over and over again, then maybe you should try a different tactic.

+V

(Edit): Oh and one more thing...was it me who hurt the player base with these three slow moving monsters in one area of the entire shard...or was it the players who forced the need for the measure?

[krystol]

lol ? people sure are crafty.

[Gwendolyn]

=)

Well, it is definitely a veritas approach to the situation....I did it.

kaBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM MUAHAHAA MUAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!

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But in all seriousness...the blocking of the hiding skill was indeed done. Then I saw people macroing invisibility, then I made a fast-acting revealing measure. Then I saw a person macro-recalling in, so I disabled all traveling methods out of that area. Then, I saw a great attempt to sit there as a ghost and wait for the hammer to spawn, then use self-res when its there and snag it...*claps* bravo. Now, there is an auto-mover in the area that moves people in the immediate area away from the table if they are dead...

When people start using newer and multiple methods of going around the natural intent of things, then a natural reaction would be to implement newer and multiple blocks to those methods. The guardians are slow, and have no ranged attack. They are designed to kill afk individuals who can stand there and run an auto attacker and auto healer macro, while also running a script to target nearby war hammers and use the stealing skill on them...I will lower their movement speed even more after this post. If they still kill you over and over again, then maybe you should try a different tactic.

+V

(Edit): Oh and one more thing...was it me who hurt the player base with these three slow moving monsters in one area of the entire shard...or was it the players who forced the need for the measure?

*grumbles about there only being one spawn point*

[Kaleel]

=)(Edit): Oh and one more thing...was it me who hurt the player base with these three slow moving monsters in one area of the entire shard...or was it the players who forced the need for the measure?

I'd say it was the players who forced your hand, looks like you've tried a number of things already so it needed to get a bit rougher.

[Mystery Man]

+1

Ive had 1 or 2 who didnt like playing fair so my hat goes off to you Thorgal and the way i look at it is Mr X will have his day in court, what goes around comes around..And this goes to Mr X, just because you got prob XXXX amount of gold and who knows what else in ur bank/home or whatever and been playing for who knows how long, not everyone has been playing that long and dont know everything there is about UO even though this might be the same kind of feel as UO, so give people a break.

[Thorgal]

I just hope this post wasn't seen as a rant agains't Mr. X but agains't the general idea that reporting another player just because he crossed your path or entered your comfort zone and got you in trouble or for what ever other reason! Like i said this is just a game and before jumping the gun and assuming this was intentionnal (narcissistic attitude btw) why not try and explain or simply inform that player how the area (dungeons, quest, etc) works, and here's a wild concept, why not try and help him, show him or her the ropes!

And to conclude on that subject, i dont mind the presence of titan guardians, gives me a challenge to look forward to in the future.

Still... thx all for the support!

[anarchy]

first and foremost: you see a name at least a window ahead. as soon as you saw that name you should have moved away trailing the monster to the other side of the dungeon. would have stop all this confusion. no i'm not mr. x i like those titan guardians because they are fun from time to time. i'm not trying to be mean or rude, but would have saved some headaches. now mr x. i have to go with what blaze said... they are slow moving either you were afk, afw or plain stupid to not move out of the way. they can be a one hitter quitter too i do believe not sure. i know a lot of kids who do this. they run into an area they don't know about then they jet towards you. crazy. i know they don't do it intentionally to kill me, but it can be quit annoying to have to deal with his 30 umbris grunts running after him.

it is terrible that people will set up macros to hide and steal. i didn't even think that was possible, because i thought once you did an action you were revealed.

once again i'm not trying to be mean i'm just trying to see a balance:

rule: No indirect player killing, such as intentionally causing a monster to go near a player that was not informed of your actions.<----i know you did not intentionally try this in order to kill a player, because i know you in game. i know that your not like this, and i know your a good person. but i may know this, and blaze may know this, but this new player doesn't know this.