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Aaah.. true..

Well.. there really isn't any reason it cannot be done.. It requires very simple editing, and the idea of what extra loot to add. If the idea is turned down.. well.. to me, that's simply saying that content for newer-mid level players isn't allowed.. :roll:
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Well... They did change the dungeon maps so they must realize that the treasures are weak. But for some reason they stoped there and did not change the prisoner or tmap chests.

At this time I can only guess what those reasons could have been. :?
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Couldn't tell you the reasoning for the oversight on the Tmaps.. Probably wasn't on the "agenda".. doubt that it still is..

Unfortunately, despite how great of an idea that it is.. I doubt it will get very much attention.. 139 views opposed to 17 replies?

Just goes to say, that if a suggestion/request doesn't directly benefit a vet, or someone who can devote half a day daily, to Excelsior.. it will most likely be overlooked.

There's a ton more content that could be added to benefit those that don't have the time invested, or are gainfully employed.. I don't have the time to waste on bios, or the mage's inquisition quest.. However, it'd be nice to see a few more things added that I'd easily be able to find the time for.. like the occasional Tmap with better loot...
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I am in Favor of some of what Rune said!

Yes to turn in lower lvl maps to a npc for a higher lvl map. I think the ratio should be 10 lower mpas for 1 higher map.

No to new lvl 7 maps. LVL 6 map already has the arty and I am happy with that.

Now someone said this would make lower maps pointless ... ummm 1-5 are pointless as they are turning them in to bump up the lvl would give them worth instead of trashin for tokens :P
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"ummm 1-5 are pointless as they are"

That is the point !

Why should most of the tmap system be pointless?
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1. I really like the idea of turning lower tmaps in for an upgrade. Even if you made the loot inside those 10x better, i still wouldn't bother with them. Level6 being the exception due to the Artie.

2. There is no reason whatsoever for creating a lvl 7 tmap.
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amadman wrote:"ummm 1-5 are pointless as they are"

That is the point !

Why should most of the tmap system be pointless?
thats how things work ??? I dont see you killing slime and rats now do you? Doesn't mean banish them or make them all 1k hps
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Well rats would only be like lvl 1 maps. And lvl 6 would be more like champs and peerless bosses.

Some players will be at one end while others would be at the other end. This is why there are different lvls of maps.
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Ruewyn wrote:Even if you made the loot inside those 10x better, i still wouldn't bother with them."

Thats one of the problems. People are thinking what they would do at the point they are at. Not all people are at a point where they can do the higher lvl chests.

So, I am not suggesting that the lower chest are boosted enough to make a high lvl player want to find them. I am suggesting that we boost the chest to make it worth doing the chest that you can do at your current lvl And with each lvl higher you get more chances or better odds of getting the boosted stuff.
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Now i am not sure i should be putting my input on this as I am not one that does alot or much of any maps at all. Mainly because there was never anything good from them except for say that arty in lvl 6 or 7 maps however i come across very few ingenious maps and not entirely sure why that is but perhaps the extra in the lower chest/maps would encourage more to do them as I know i get alot of devious ones and i throw them out because I feel it is a waste of my time to find them and dig them for a few k at most and alot of garbage items. Perhaps even if it were to actually be based upon luck within the chests would be good as I would think treasure hunting is mainly luck and very little skill when it comes to loot. I have quite high luck in my opinion at roughly 2500 luck and i still dont see much worth keeping in the chests. I do prisoners chests quite often and really only take the 2k gold it gives and dont bother even looking at the other stuff most times because when i do it usually is never any good. I typically look at a few things find its crap and dont look at the rest. Prisoner chests were reffered to as similar to the tmap ones so my basis is coming from them mostly but i know of people that do the tmaps regularly and have heard their disatisfaction with them. I apologize if this just sounds like I have no idea what I am talking about and would appreciate for any feedback if that be the case. Also would appreciate any input on is there a better way to get the ingenious rather than devious and lower maps?
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Thanks for posting Quantrax! I am sure you are not alone in not doing tmaps for those reasons :)

Other than the treasure itself it all advances as you do. So the lower maps come from lower lvl creatures and the higher maps come from higher lvl creatures.

For the ingenious maps I think they mostly come from larger Paragon monsters.
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I see a lot of people shooting this idea down.. which doesn't make much sense..

If we were asking for Apprentice's Stockings to drop from one of these maps, then I'd understand. But the Tmaps at this point, are practically worthless, even at level 6.

If you all are so quick to shun Tmaps, then I could shun BODs.. You are taking hours, even days to complete a BOD you're not even entirely sure will be worth the time and effort.

While a Tmap, you're guaranteed to find something.. whether it be gold, a rare, or even an arty in the level 6 case.

The point is, Tmaps are an old hobby for a lot of us old timer UO junkies.. why not allow us to have something that would actually make Cartography fun!?
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I dont know orbit storm. I think most people know and agree that a boost to tmaps would be a good thing.

People have just grown to know and accept that the lower lvl maps are a waste of time. Which is a real shame :(
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amadman wrote:I dont know orbit storm. I think most people know and agree that a boost to tmaps would be a good thing.

People have just grown to know and accept that the lower lvl maps are a waste of time. Which is a real shame :(
Don't mind him he pulls facts out of you know where.... Boost to Tmaps in any of the few ways mentioned above would be nice to T-Mappers. I don't do T-Maps myself but I know ppl that do and I Still tag along.
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amadman wrote:I dont know orbit storm. I think most people know and agree that a boost to tmaps would be a good thing.
Exactly.. a boost is definitely what is needed...


[quote"amadman"]People have just grown to know and accept that the lower lvl maps are a waste of time. Which is a real shame[/quote]

Indeed.. thus why we need a bit of editing to get some better loot.. I'd be willing to do it myself, but contributions at this point, on my behalf, are questionable at best.. lol :mrgreen:



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Really Stan? I'd hate to even acknowledge you, but your reply just amuses me. You don't truly realize how foolish you made yourself look do you? Amadman is quite aware I am with him 110% on this whole idea.. and you tried to play it off as though I am not. Now you're just trying too hard.. As far as I can tell.. you're the only one doing anything with "you know where".. and I think, you're getting everything confused here, because you have your cranium too far up your own rectum.. :lol:
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