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Need advice on my bow.

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I have a crafted Yumi
damage increase 35
Hit life leach 40
Hit mans leach 44
Hit lower defence 40
Hit lower Attack 44

I am working on leveling it but i haven't spent any of the points, I would like some impute from those who know a lot more what is best to have in your perniment range weapon. I am currently thinking of leaving mana leach at 45% because i have 30 something mana Regen and a 150+ mana. I plan on spending 240 points putting 60% hit lighting on it. is that a good idea? i mean is i worth do and if not in your opinion what would be a better idea....
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ya put lighting :)
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I'll second that. I believe Lightning would be a good choice on that weapon. Kinda looks similar to the stats that I have on my current bow.
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Really depends on your complete set up and stats. Also, what items you plan on gathering along the way.

Lightning is very useful on a weapon. It's more damage, via the spell lightning, and its useful against pesky Umm's, too.

I'm not sure on diminishing returns, for mana regen. If there are diminishing returns, more mana leech might be ideal.

How much Dex do you have. All bows are rather slow to begin with, due to their large damage outputs. So if you have low dexterity, your going to want to add SSI to the bow. Swing Speed Increase (SSI), seems to deduct 1.0 SS from a weapons base swing speed, per 30% SSI. So figure that 15% SSI on a weapon that has a natural swing speed of 2.00, would drop it down to 1.50. Or 30% SSI would drop a weapon from 2.25 SS, to 1.25 SS. (a swing speed of 1 swing per 1.25 seconds is the lowest you can drop any weapons swing speed down to, as far as I remember from the EX wiki pages)

***The above formula is not taking into account your dexterity which lowers a weapons swing speed.

All in all, id pick up another or craft another Yumi. Some artifact yumi's are good as well. From what i can see on my guild mates bows... DI, ML, HLA, Luck, Dex, Str, HP increase, Stamina regen 10 are some of the ways to go.

Also, ::Note:: Crafted weapons only grant 3sp a level, while artifacts grant 5sp.

Hope that helps you out Nick. Be well.
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Go with lightning. It's kinda "must have" stat on bow.
Danilo Thann wrote:Some artifact yumi's are good as well.
What artifacts? Horselord and Hanzo? I really doubt that additional 200 points on leveling will compensate the lack of usefull original stats.
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I personally think this is a big mistake. I know tons of people make the claim this is a tamers shard but it isn't, the richest people don't use pets, why is that you ask.. Good, let me answer.

It starts with your equipment and most of all, your weapon. None of it needs to be top of the line but it all has to be good, a crafted bow just does not yield the impact when at level 100 then a solid looted/artifact(tag removed) bow will. You are talking about spending 240 points and all you have it 300 to spend. Unless you have a very high SDI, the hit spells are only "so so", so at this time I would like to point out you are missing Hit Stam Leech. Spells don't cut it all the time especially when you are using weapon abilities and Cons Weapon every 6 seconds.

Don't get me wrong, your bow is great for a young player but if you are talking about a permanent weapon then what you have right now isn't it. Don't let some vet talk you into crafted is okay, look at what is in their hand when fighting something, trust me it isn't crafted.

Done with the good news part, now for the bad.

Every solid weapon I that I have either made or seen, costs gold/eds to make. The yumi I use personal cost 350 eds before I even started leveling it. With some you have to remove the tag, all you will have to change to a yumi, Spell Channeling and finally my favorite Self Repair 5. I can personally tell you, my gaming life here changed the moment I spent those 350 eds. I know it sounds like a lot and it was for me at the time but since that point, making gold to buy more eds is easy. You go from being one of the players behind your pets, to the few players putting them away because they slow you down and you don't need them.
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Nelapsi, is there any other looted Yumis except Horselord and Hanzo? Does the 4x46 or 3x58 looted Yumis exists? Or you level one of Tokuno arties? Then post its final stats, please. Cause I can't see how to make good bow from one of these. The only way to get "perfect" Yumi, as I understand it, is to relay some other looted weapon. And it cost 500ED.
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Stranger wrote:Nelapsi, is there any other looted Yumis except Horselord and Hanzo? Does the 4x46 or 3x58 looted Yumis exists? Or you level one of Tokuno arties? Then post its final stats, please. Cause I can't see how to make good bow from one of these. The only way to get "perfect" Yumi, as I understand it, is to relay some other looted weapon. And it cost 500ED.
There are only 2 yumi's available just from looting and both you named. This is why I said, you have to spend eds to make your yumi. You are also incorrect about the cost, relayering a weapon into another weapon is 200 eds, not 500. I know still eds, but even for me there is a big difference between those 2 numbers.
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people think getting eds is for the rich peeps in the world, but there are some players who have never donated (Krazy G) who has a lot of good gear.

here's how you get a lot of eds.

do bees; in a month you can average around 4 mil a month

while do so go to prism of light and harvest oints. (6k ea now) in prism of light you can average about 100 oints in about 2 hours at the daemon room. 2 hours a day is about 100 x 6000= 600k x 7 (days) = 4.2 mil x 4 (weeks) = 16.8 mil but who wants to farm all that time so i'll bump it down to 10 mil.

average per month. 14+ mil.
weapon change deed 200 eds = 10 mil.
SR5 50 eds= 2.5 mil
spell channeling 100 eds= don't really need it if you make a dress macro but it's nice to have. 5 mil.

total cost in gold: 17.5 mil.
still need: 3.5 mil. (remember if you kept grinding at oints you would have over 20 mil) (even if you sold oints at 5k gold you would still have 14 mil +4 mil = 18 mil so you would have a surplus of 500k)

this is using 5 nobles and no special gear. trust me it's easier than people think getting large amounts of gold/eds.

good luck. :)
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I will second what Anarchy added, ask Jack and Gwen.. they both used to get peerless keys from me because I was living in that room on a daily basis.

Your equipment is what you put into it, not what you donate. This is a very poor assumption and misconception by a few.
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lol i think we all have lived in that room. ahahhahaha
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Nelapsi wrote:You are also incorrect about the cost, relayering a weapon into another weapon is 200 eds, not 500.
This is changing a lot. I was sure that every relayer is 500. Thanks for info.
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Stranger wrote:
Nelapsi wrote:You are also incorrect about the cost, relayering a weapon into another weapon is 200 eds, not 500.
This is changing a lot. I was sure that every relayer is 500. Thanks for info.
pretty sure it hasn't changed in recent history. since i started playing weapon -> weapon was 200 eds
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thanks for the advice all... I have 225 dex so swing speed isn't a must. I have about 110 spell damage increase so its not maxed but its ok. So pretty much I should find a better base weapon to start with? I haven't been worryed about stam regen becuase i have 15 already and and use divine fury, right now i mostly switch to a bow to kill crap that runs away once I hack in almost to death with my halaber. Ill keep my eye out for a 4x46 or a 3x56. hit Lighting, mana and stam should be the starting stats hu? the life leach isn't that important because it only really gets used when i get mortal strike.

Yeah i spent many a day in prism of light...best oints you can get is in the crystal giant room though. I averaged 62 a hour, have been there in a while, since the bottom fell out of the price of oints.

Well thanks all that have contributed
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This might be just different perspectives on how we play the game, so bare that in mind.

When you start fighting the big stuff on this shard, without pets. You need all three Hit Leeches, I have tried to figure out a nice balance between just 2 of them and there are just some monsters that will wear you down. All three though and you are going toe to toe without a blink. I have also found you do not need each maxed or even near maxed, good example is mana leech only needs to be about 35-40 and you are doing Weapon Ability every strike (At the fastest weapon speed possible), casting all the combat spells and never even coming close to 0.

Regen Rates: I know people have loved to show the charts and he said she said but let me tell you this, my lowest regen is 60 and my highest is 100+. It makes a difference, casting VE without the need of trees is fairly relaxing.

The point I guess I am trying to make is when you live by the sword, make sure everything is rocking, otherwise you will die by the sword.
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