Honestly, I play UOEX because its fun. I can go to Doom and kill stuff and find rares and it makes me feel good. I don't have to worry about someone looting me when I die or stealing my house key etc. I can see how the utopia of UOEX could be compromised by PVP.
I assume those that run and those that play this shard have reasons for why they do the things they do. I have no problems with that. I like the shard. I enjoy playing on it. For my personal PVP needs, I play on another shard and the people there only care about PVP, its like freaking Siege Perilous. When I got started I got pked several times a day in Brit Graveyard. Took me a week to do anything. But thats why I liked it. I like this shard for other reasons.
My point. I would hate to see this shard turn into siege perilous. I like not having to worry about thieves and reds and murderers every second. But, when I need my fear fix, my red fix, my pk fix, I leave UOEX and go to my alternative shard where I can be a jerk along with all the other jerks. There I can loot and curse and steal and murder along with all the other scumbags. Here, Ill be Hunny Bunny.
Felucca Gone Wild
Re: Felucca Gone Wild
Hehe no need to worry. There will never be a chance of someone being able to simply kill you and loot you.
However i like the idea of a player going to a special altar, reading all the rules, and accepting to become a red player. Perhaps such red players would then not be allowed in trammel at all or maybe they'd be confined to felucca only... And a player would have to be for example at least 3 weeks old before being able to become a Red. A Red player could only attack other Red players. A blue player couldn't heal a red one, also vice versa. So if you don't want anything to do with it you simply never go to that altar and you live a regular life. And if it starts going bad then we simply disable it and call it a bad experiment.
^^ still just theory, nothing planned.
However i like the idea of a player going to a special altar, reading all the rules, and accepting to become a red player. Perhaps such red players would then not be allowed in trammel at all or maybe they'd be confined to felucca only... And a player would have to be for example at least 3 weeks old before being able to become a Red. A Red player could only attack other Red players. A blue player couldn't heal a red one, also vice versa. So if you don't want anything to do with it you simply never go to that altar and you live a regular life. And if it starts going bad then we simply disable it and call it a bad experiment.
^^ still just theory, nothing planned.
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Jillmuffit
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
I like the idea +Coli had about being stuck in fel as a red player. One thing that might be worth a look is opening fel to housing for reds though.
Re: Felucca Gone Wild
Maybe just a few small regions yea... hmmm.
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Undertaker
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
housing for red... so placing houses in fel, what if you turn your red status off? you'll be a blue with fel housing, an to get to your house your gonna need a rune, or house gate... so that would be ez access to felucca, me personally I would do it Just for that reason, to place a house in fel an use it to get to fel faster rather then running from the entrance... something else to think about,....
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
Not if you don't allow gates and runes. You wanna live there you live the hard way and run it!! I'd love it actually I miss living in fel 
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jeffcarley
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
I used to pvp, but its hard to make friends and role play while killing others:) One of the reasons for choosing this shard was to relax and get away from stress! That being said, I like the idea of having a red area in case i feel like mixing it up to "see if I still got it" i was on a shard with several areas that were red and you knew not to go in. If you did you knew you would find trouble...or excitement! For example Buccaneer's den was a seedy place. There was gambling, special spell componets, rare items, ships and other things that were exclusive to the island. It was cool...dangerous...you had to be daring to venture in there. That kind of rush is what makes this game so addictive and makes you try and overcome the obsticle...try it and you will see a positive reaction from the players.
Electra
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
Can also be made so that if you're blue and you try going to your red house it just collapses.
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Undertaker
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
i never found any positive reaction from players while pvping... what if your having a bad day, sometimes killing other ppl can be fun 
takes the edge off... but ive NEVER came across anyone that turned into a good mood... im tellin ya, for the first few months it'll be fun, or maybe even 9 months... your not gonna find someone skipping along singing to the butterflies then slaughter another player, *sigh* im already getting annoyed at the thought of having pvp... 
takes the edge off... but ive NEVER came across anyone that turned into a good mood... im tellin ya, for the first few months it'll be fun, or maybe even 9 months... your not gonna find someone skipping along singing to the butterflies then slaughter another player, *sigh* im already getting annoyed at the thought of having pvp... ____________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
Well in such case, you would go back to that portal and set your self back to blue.
I dont like open pvp either, just calls for trouble.
I dont like open pvp either, just calls for trouble.
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Undertaker
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
exactly my thoughts...
on a side note, (if it does fly)... what if One was to hide near that portal/alter an see a red come up an kill him/her? would it be in a safe spot?... if it is, some ppl would pvp around that particular area, an when getting close to dying, run to the safe spot, an heal, then run back out... yes indeed colibri... soooo much trouble... an then the name calling begins... oh gosh, such a hassle... it was just a thought on how that would work... pking ppl befor they can even turn back from blue... lol... how sad...
on a side note, (if it does fly)... what if One was to hide near that portal/alter an see a red come up an kill him/her? would it be in a safe spot?... if it is, some ppl would pvp around that particular area, an when getting close to dying, run to the safe spot, an heal, then run back out... yes indeed colibri... soooo much trouble... an then the name calling begins... oh gosh, such a hassle... it was just a thought on how that would work... pking ppl befor they can even turn back from blue... lol... how sad...
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
It would be a safe spot, like with the PvP dungeon I would think. PvP dungeon is like so: The first entrance is just for "setting up". You do not engage until you go through the 2nd portal. So i would think with Fel, there is an area that will be set to where you cant attack. Staff are pretty smart, and they arent going to have PvP set up to where people are taken advantage of. i think we've pretty much established that if we have it, it's going to be civilized not typical PvP. also i would be that if you're in Red mode you probably arent allowed to have pets out. PvP is about players fighting, not PPvPP.what if One was to hide near that portal/alter an see a red come up an kill him/her?
I like the idea, b/c you dont have to worry about being bothered unless you choose to be red. and if you choose to be red, then there are still rules to follow. so i think it's pretty awesome when done in an orderly way.
Sounds like Undertaker is afraid of being taken under
*edit* it really doesnt matter to me if we do or do not have PvP. But I know if we did have it here, it would be created in the best possible way.
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For fear of facing our mistakes.
So we call it judgment,
And watch our friends, our world, ourselves... go comatose, inside."
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So we call it judgment,
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Undertaker
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
not at all llexa... i despise pvp... simply said... unless this was befor AoS, where pvp rocked... well then i wouldnt be here...
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Re: Felucca Gone Wild
For my part, I was all about pvp for years. Some of my characters on OSI servers have more then 1500 murders. There are a couple of reasons why i would not want pvp added to uoex. First people tend to get very competitive (who likes to die?) and sooner or later, people realize that the one winning uses cheats (speadhacks, healing scripts, explosion throwing scripts, etc), wich make other people use cheats; and pvp community ends up being a big bunch of cheaters claiming ownage right while they could not kill a naked new player without their cheats/hacks.
Also, there are many items that would make pvp sooooo unbalanced, im thinking of the druid tree spell, the pets with 1000 strenght, levelable weapons, the level 70 artifacts, the possibility to have more pet slots... In the actual formula, most player kills would be acheived under 2 seconds, wich sounds no fun or skillfull for me. Not to mention the affect that this would have on the price of good armor/weapon. There would also be alot more afk farming to pay theses expensive equipements. There would also be larger guilds blocking the points of interest (hell, on osi server, they use scripted accounts to check every champ spawn altar). Finally, f pvp was to be largely implemented, the admins would have, imo, to nerf most skills and and weapon/armor; wich would affect people just enjoying to hunt.
Excelsior is a fun place where cheats are not used, mainly because of it's non-pvp aspect. There is always the possibility for guildmates or poeple going in the pvp dungeon to duel. So I think enlarging pvp limits should be a big no no, but that's just my opinion.
Also, there are many items that would make pvp sooooo unbalanced, im thinking of the druid tree spell, the pets with 1000 strenght, levelable weapons, the level 70 artifacts, the possibility to have more pet slots... In the actual formula, most player kills would be acheived under 2 seconds, wich sounds no fun or skillfull for me. Not to mention the affect that this would have on the price of good armor/weapon. There would also be alot more afk farming to pay theses expensive equipements. There would also be larger guilds blocking the points of interest (hell, on osi server, they use scripted accounts to check every champ spawn altar). Finally, f pvp was to be largely implemented, the admins would have, imo, to nerf most skills and and weapon/armor; wich would affect people just enjoying to hunt.
Excelsior is a fun place where cheats are not used, mainly because of it's non-pvp aspect. There is always the possibility for guildmates or poeple going in the pvp dungeon to duel. So I think enlarging pvp limits should be a big no no, but that's just my opinion.
Re: Felucca Gone Wild
Awesome fingers! a point well made... another reason not to have pvp here, an its good the way it is, just leave the pvp/guild to the pvp dungeon... and awesome pic! an another point made about the speedhack, etc... i forgot to mention that stuff on top of what i was saying