Revealing AFK players

[fingers]

A few months ago, I went afk while hidden, waiting on egiptski to respawn. I went to do a few things, very confident that i was safe as, having been playing on osi for several years, I knew that I would be reveald in a trammel facet, as it is an agressive act that can get me killed. Anyway, on OSI servers, hidden players on non pvp facet just can't be revealed. Well I learned that here it's not the way it works, because I was revealed and dead when I came back. All my gear is either blessed or insured, but i did happen to have worth several millions of goods uninsured in my pack. But, oh well i just decided to forget that incident.

Today, my guildmate was hidden at Ortov. The thing spaws once an hour, so yah, he was surfing the net, washing dishes or doing something else. When he came back, two players were looking at him getting killed by spiders. When he asked why they revealed him, they said, well it's a chance you take when you go afk.

I will not reveal the name of thoses players, but any of you 2, there is one place where it is tolerated that your actions gets a player killed, it's in the pvp dungeon. Feel free anytime to pm me to go there, will certainly be more honorable than getting my guldmates killed afk.

Also, I wouldlike to make a request to staffers that players cant reveal other players in a non pvo area.

Thanks.

[Bubba Ho Tep]

Heck, how do these evil doers know where to target to reveal someone?

[fingers]

trackin- players, makes a arrow appear - detect hidden

[Kile Morgan]

5. PvP:
a. No Player Killing. PvP/Dueling is allowed, but outside of town limits, and outside of any public areas.
b. PvP is by some players seen as offensive, and frightening - do your fighting in a private place - or you can be warned/killed/jailed.
c. No indirect player killing, such as intentionally causing a monster to go near a player that was not informed of your actions.
d. We take all non-agreed player-harmful actions very seriously, the penalties for which can be jail or ban.

Does this not fall under c? No indirect player killing....... Sounds like it covers real clear.
I would think that the event should be reported to staff and let them work on it.

[+Colibri]

If by being AFK you arent gathering any gold or experience, that's nothing wrong.
Sounds to me those players intentionally first used tracking, then revealing... One thing is if they were testing it out, where afterwards they could say they're sorry, but it's another thing if they intentionally did it. (I can imagine myself being at some location, waiting for a spawn, meanwhile i'd read a site and find how to use the combination of those skills, but after id get someone killed i'd hope they will return soon, and apologize).

Feel free to send over those names so that i can have a talk with them.

As for this issue, well even if OSI didn't have that, id say it's one of the ways to get a player killed, so it's going on my list of fixables.

[A Black Death]

i dont know the circumstances with you or your guildmate fingers, i myself accidently revealed someone afk at neto once upon a time , and spent a good while keeping him alive due to the fact he was afk hidden,

How he got revealed, area attack life leech made him hostile and swing wep at neto thus revealing him right next to neto
WRutwroh wraggy,

Anyhoo anychance there was a sucubus in the area that could have done that to your guildmate? the fact they stood there and either let him die or where attempting to watch him die is appauling just curious ^^

[TsiyaAma]

I've been revealed by casters before too. Blood eles are pretty good at that, and so are dragons. They usually only do it once you've gotten aggro, and you hide/invis to break it. That was in Tram on OSI. So if someone had aggro and ran away, the caster mob could've revealed and gotten your guildy.

Not defending or anything, just pointing out possibilities. I would hope nobody would try to get anyone killed, but there's a short list of people on the shard I know well enough to say they wouldn't do that.

[fingers]

None of the foes in that area can reveal or area effet.

[Calan Caitin]

Ok, before the what ifs and speculations get going too strong... I was at Otrov the Widowmaker. I had killed the big green meanie and knowing the spawn rate is an hour, give or take a few minutes and from past experience nothing in the area has reveal nor area effect attacks, I hid (with the skill and not invis) and stepped away from the computer to do a few things. I came back to see if it had respawned and much to my surprise, 2 other players were there and I had been revealed. One of the little spiders was munching on my toes and was dispatched rather quickly. One of the players hid and apparently went AFK. I asked why I had been revealed. The person said the one that hid "likes to do that to see who is here". I said I thought it was BS to reveal hidden players like that, especially in a place like that. I was told "it's the chance you take when you go AFK in a place like here". I told Polar what happened and here we are. Now you know the skinny. Not looking to get the other players involved into trouble, but a fix for the issue would be a plus. Since we have no PvP other than in PvP dungeon, there is no need for a player to have the ability to reveal another player in my opinion.

[Craig]

Hahahahaha... Wwwaaaaaaa. Lets cry some more. Oh and btw, LYNCH MOB!

[fingers]

^^ That should answer to the questions about a possible area effect from a monster. He was around my guildmate when it happened. He was the one to say that one that goes afk should expect being reveald. Oh, Craig, BTW, just between you and me, COWARD MOB!

[Licos]

How well would a razor macro of useskill-->hiding, pause 10,000ms work? It's at least a measure to take...
Is there a system message that pops up when you are no longer hiding? You could do a useskill --> hiding when there is a sysmesg--> "You are no longer hidden"...sotra...thing... =P. I don't know...it's bed time.

[smth12342]

OMG Wow i kinda feel like im in kindergarten again. gimme back my play-doh bish. this is a no pvp shard. point taken. but i feel if you are going to go afk while waiting for spawns and you come back how ever long after and find yourself dead... well brother you got no one to blame but your self. the spawn is each hour?.. understood. if a gm pops up to speak with you how long do you have to answer? before repercussions? 5-10 mins? understood.. you knowing you were gone 30-40 mins afk while hidden? now not trying to create enemies or anything but i feel if you comeback and you are dead you have no one to blame but your self. if i had done the same thing i would have said to self.... well that was a stupid idea really anyway and i should have known better. point taken also revealing hidden players in such areas is wrong. again i agree. but do us all a favor it would seem that you have learned a lesson... then again maybe not. you will prob do same thing again tomorrow or next day. but please let it go geez.. well long story short i suppose if ya dont want to comeback find yourself dead. dont go afk for longer than you know you should. and if its got ya down that bad ill call a wahmbulance. and ill spot ya some gold for an order of wahhh burgers and french cries.. do you like cheese with your whine?

[Bubba Ho Tep]

Well smth12342, you do are entitled to your oppinion... But lemme quote Colibri:

If by being AFK you arent gathering any gold or experience, that's nothing wrong.
(...) (I can imagine myself being at some location, waiting for a spawn, meanwhile i'd read a site and find how to use the combination of those skills, but after id get someone killed i'd hope they will return soon, and apologize).

Feel free to send over those names so that i can have a talk with them.

As for this issue, well even if OSI didn't have that, id say it's one of the ways to get a player killed, so it's going on my list of fixables.

So nothing much else to say other than that the admin of the shard happens to disagree with you. Wanna some cheese with your whine?

[smth12342]

Ok point taken the admins disagree. i understand im just saying how do we know for sure what theese guys were doing while afk im pretty sure they were not checking on skills or whatever im just saying if you go afk and come back to find yourself dead... dont be suprised wether you hid or whatever if you go afk come back and dead its a price you pay simply put is all im trying to say i dont go afk guess what happens i dont get ged it works they should try it out sometimes.