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Selling a good relayer, ultimate quiver slot

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It's a 100 level weapon. It has 4*20% resists (not physical), 30% SSI, maxxed out all char stats, 20%SDI and 15%RPD. And it is blessed. This is a much better relayer than Butcher Resolve or Wing's Edge.

PM Holypal in game with an offer. Thanks.
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Bump. I think this is one of the best relayers in the shard, besides titan hammer.
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Bump
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Bump.
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Bump. I am a serious seller.
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Sorry but this relayer suuuuuuuuuuucks!

Edit: I'm going back to edit this just in case someone is trying to learn about relayers and stumbles across this. I was completely wrong about this. It's a great relayer. Not if you are only ever going to have just 1 relayer. But if you’re planning multiple relayers, you can only hope to find one this good.
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Melkor wrote:Sorry but this relayer suuuuuuuuuuucks!
looks almost like every other relayer. why does it suck?
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Adrias wrote:
Melkor wrote:Sorry but this relayer suuuuuuuuuuucks!
looks almost like every other relayer. why does it suck?

Well, since you asked. Hit Lightning and Hit Stamina are useless on a relayer. SDI is mostly useless on this shard as magery for offensive damage is underpowered compared to other options and SDI has no effect on druid spells. RPD is not a very useful, not compared to HCI or DCI. IMO the resists are a waste as its super easy to get way above cap without a relayer. That basically leaves the stat bonus and the SSI as the only good things on this relayer. Also, there is no DI which is a big reason people relayer items for, which is what makes Butchers resolve such a popular choice.

Troll? sure, I guess you could say that. I’ve been biting my tongue since this post came up, but Holypal’s latest comment, well I couldn’t hold back. Just don’t want to see someone get taken advantage of again.
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Melkor wrote: Well, since you asked. Hit Lightning and Hit Stamina are useless on a relayer. SDI is mostly useless on this shard as magery for offensive damage is underpowered compared to other options and SDI has no effect on druid spells. RPD is not a very useful, not compared to HCI or DCI. IMO the resists are a waste as its super easy to get way above cap without a relayer. That basically leaves the stat bonus and the SSI as the only good things on this relayer. Also, there is no DI which is a big reason people relayer items for, which is what makes Butchers resolve such a popular choice.

Troll? sure, I guess you could say that. I’ve been biting my tongue since this post came up, but Holypal’s latest comment, well I couldn’t hold back. Just don’t want to see someone get taken advantage of again.
1) yes hit lightning and hit stam are worthless
2) everyone puts 20 SDI on items because it boosts the damage on on hits on your weapons
3) everyone puts points in to get 105% RPD
4) HCI and DCI are capped at 45% which are easy to cap in other places
5) resists are great on relayers, because unlike HCI and DCI very few weapons have resists and your resists start to suffer when you start relayering a bunch and using pieces of gear that give large stat boosts over resists
6) DI is capped at 100% (from all your items). 2-3 relayers and you're capped (even without relayers you can be capped). DI is probably one of the least valued stats for people with relayers

all in all i would say you're trolling (or should just keep biting that tongue)
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Adrias wrote:
Melkor wrote: Well, since you asked. Hit Lightning and Hit Stamina are useless on a relayer. SDI is mostly useless on this shard as magery for offensive damage is underpowered compared to other options and SDI has no effect on druid spells. RPD is not a very useful, not compared to HCI or DCI. IMO the resists are a waste as its super easy to get way above cap without a relayer. That basically leaves the stat bonus and the SSI as the only good things on this relayer. Also, there is no DI which is a big reason people relayer items for, which is what makes Butchers resolve such a popular choice.

Troll? sure, I guess you could say that. I’ve been biting my tongue since this post came up, but Holypal’s latest comment, well I couldn’t hold back. Just don’t want to see someone get taken advantage of again.
1) yes hit lightning and hit stam are worthless
2) everyone puts 20 SDI on items because it boosts the damage on on hits on your weapons
3) everyone puts points in to get 105% RPD
4) HCI and DCI are capped at 45% which are easy to cap in other places
5) resists are great on relayers, because unlike HCI and DCI very few weapons have resists and your resists start to suffer when you start relayering a bunch and using pieces of gear that give large stat boosts over resists
6) DI is capped at 100% (from all your items). 2-3 relayers and you're capped (even without relayers you can be capped). DI is probably one of the least valued stats for people with relayers

all in all i would say you're trolling
I disagree with much of your rational, but hey, your part of the Holypal fan club, and I obviously don’t like the seller. You asked for my rational, I certainly didn’t ask for yours. I won’t debate this issue any longer. Let’s leave it up to the potential buyer to decide what they think.
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Melkor wrote: I disagree with much of your rational, but hey, your part of the Holypal fan club, and I obviously don’t like the seller. You asked for my rational, I certainly didn’t ask for yours. I won’t debate this issue any longer. Let’s leave it up to the potential buyer to decide what they think.
I really don't care who the seller is(e.g., if your posts and holys were switched i would have post the same things). my main problem is you are spreading misinformation and trying to slander someone. reread my post, might help you learn some things
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id prolly buy this if i wasnt broke lol
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Melkor wrote:
Well, since you asked. Hit Lightning and Hit Stamina are useless on a relayer. SDI is mostly useless on this shard as magery for offensive damage is underpowered compared to other options and SDI has no effect on druid spells. RPD is not a very useful, not compared to HCI or DCI. IMO the resists are a waste as its super easy to get way above cap without a relayer. That basically leaves the stat bonus and the SSI as the only good things on this relayer. Also, there is no DI which is a big reason people relayer items for, which is what makes Butchers resolve such a popular choice.

Troll? sure, I guess you could say that. I’ve been biting my tongue since this post came up, but Holypal’s latest comment, well I couldn’t hold back. Just don’t want to see someone get taken advantage of again.
SDI and RPD are really useful, at least in my opinion. There is no cap on SDI in PvM, and it increases the damage of hit lightning ( or fireball, harm, magicarrow). I believe that most of the good players have all there relayers with 20%SDI. RPD is capped at 105%, no need to have it on every piece, but should be maxxed.

DI, HCI and DCI are really easy to reach the cap with 2-3 relayers. If you only wear 2-3 relayers in the end, then this relayer is not good for you.

Resist is a problem in the late game, when you replace all the GoC armors into relayered weapons. I saw several most good players have such relayer with 4(or5)*20% resists. Don't ask me why i want to replace the GoC armors.
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ahorton12 wrote:id prolly buy this if i wasnt broke lol

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