Server Population Going Down

[Modvlator]

Hi all my post is mostly for Colibri but you are all welcome to peek in,

I noticed the server population started going down after the Bee Patch,

Why did it go down?

How a New Player would Love this Game if he want the benefits of BeeKeeping with the new System with the Time Sink it offer?
Honestly If I show new player the Bee Keeping System...... ( This guy is NOT Gonna love me) thats what I mean.
hes gonna say to me you're retarded or something for sure? You Could Make the Script CLICK on those THINGS by itself to add a delay thats an idea.... dont let us do that please

I think its Not a good patch..... really Beautiful but DEEPLY BORING for a common human mind, especially when it can lead to injuries related to clicking over and over with your hand.

So Things won't sell
and why it don't sell is following,

Why the Things are so Pricy? Did you think about it?

Maybe its because you need 500eds to get a cool relayer
Maybe its because it take Three Weeks 12 Hours a Day to Level a Weapon to 100
I think the server should do his part to reduce the inflation and it start by asking Less Money to their players to HAVE FUN [ Only Speaking about Umbris and S'Gail which is the Endgame here dear god thanks we got something to do with our relayers ]

I play at least Twelve hours a day and I don't manage to get 5% of the gold I need for a relayer during a day so I need 20 days of 12 hours play to get ONE Cool Thing...... You Should not speak about "None said you HAD to donate" it is NOT the case you HAVE to donate if you don't want to take TWENTY DAYS before getting ONE SOMETHING(...........)

Bees were not the problem, the problem is the people that donate that don't even need to donate (...)

This Game is Smalll... Soooo Small we Reapeating over and over.... the Month of Farming(Efforts) to get a single cool thing

Thank you for your attention, thanks you for your presence and acknowledgement regarding this situation
This post is Imperfect but I am human too! sorry for my griberrish

[KrazyG]

Hello a little insight to players reading this - i am a vet player over 1000 + days and i had never donated ALSO never did bee's hive - and i manage to own and obtain anything i put my mind to and saved up to get. you do not need to play uber ammounts of hours or days" to enjoy the shard or rules / changes. have a great day excelsior

[omnifighter]

First) 1 week change in population is normal. I see fluctuations between 150-250 daily, I don't think bees have a single thing to do with that.

Second) Bees are such a small part of the game, I spend maybe 10-15 mins a day on bees if that.

Third) Prices are set for the challenge, if everything was 10 gold that would be no fun. At that point we should just be given 1000 str 1000 int 1000 dex, and weapons that hit 100000 every time the first time we login.

The challenge of getting the equipment is 99% of the fun. I'd rather spend 10 years playing 1-2 hours a day, then be given a weapon after 2 weeks.

Just my 2 cents.

[Georgia]

I have been here many years and saved pennies and even spent a lot of gold. Yes a lot of my gold came from Bees. However, I am learning to adapt and as the bee money drops so will the prices.
I have seen people come and go and for a long time now we have averaged 175-200 online. I see 187 so, therefore, I see the same amount that has always been here.

Lastly, you say this is a pay to win game, however, I say its a play to win game!


Sadly, if life is so miserable for you here perhaps it is time to find a place that will make you happy.

[Dramoor]

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I noticed the server population started going down after the Bee Patch,

To answer that. I check on portal the population everyday, And i have not noticed the population go down. It has been as steady as it has been since i joined almsot a year ago.

Why did it go down?

It didn't go down.

How a New Player would Love this Game if he want the benefits of BeeKeeping with the new System with the Time Sink it offer?
Honestly If I show new player the Bee Keeping System...... ( This guy is NOT Gonna love me) thats what I mean.
hes gonna say to me you're retarded or something for sure? You Could Make the Script CLICK on those THINGS by itself to add a delay thats an idea.... dont let us do that please

So what you are saying is people don't want to work for anything? they should just be given everythign free? "Hey heres 2 mil a week for 10 min of work a day" Nah not buyin it.

So Things won't sell
and why it don't sell is following,

I am already not sure why I am responding to this portion.

Maybe its because you need 500eds to get a cool relayer
Maybe its because it take Three Weeks 12 Hours a Day to Level a Weapon to 100

So what im getting you are saying here is you have to work hard for a relayer? I agree. But its well worth the amount of time it takes to achieve that goal. Its rewarding.

I think the server should do his part to reduce the inflation and it start by asking Less Money to their players to HAVE FUN

I have fun here and I dont pay any money...

I play at least Twelve hours a day and I don't manage to get 5% of the gold I need for a relayer during a day so I need 20 days of 12 hours play to get ONE Cool Thing...... You Should not speak about "None said you HAD to donate" it is NOT the case you HAVE to donate if you don't want to take TWENTY DAYS before getting ONE SOMETHING(...........)

So you think we should just give everything for free? Lets see how many play if EVERYTHING you hunted for was worth nothing... Do you really think that is a problem fixer? MMORPG, Its called Earn your keep.

Bees were not the problem, the problem is the people that donate that don't even need to donate (...)

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So Basically what you are saying is You are jealous of the people who can donate more then you can? I dont understand where you are going with this one. Most people who donate that don't need to donate...Sell their Eds at a lower rate then the rest. so You just wakled backwards here to me imho.

Basically I gather that you are upset that you cannot make 2 mil a week doing nothing but literally 3 minutes of work a day. I had 24 bee hives and would take me under 5 minutes to tend them manually. then Maybe 2 hrs to make kegs a week, If i didn't just buy them, Then a few Hrs mabye 2 tops to collect the honey/wax/render wax/sell all to beekeeper.

What fun would this game be if we could all [settaming120 [setstregnth 150 right when we get here and have millions in the bank and all the weapons are given to us up front.

There are shards like that. And im sure MORE people leave there from lack of fun, then do here from having their "free money" made a little more challaenging.

I am human as well as you, But I am sorry that we dont have a "hit start and enter this cheat code in the cheat code area" to get ahead in this game.
I used to play the game for 8 mos by myself, no bees, no big guilds or groups of people playing. and I have enjoyed every second of it, and the players that I have met since playing.

Lets not forget this is a game we play and love. Not a job we are working here.

[Modvlator]

Thanks for Saying My life might be miserable Georgia, I hope your life is not miserable tho
Sorry if I made it miserable also

[foxlord]

In 10 minutes of killing Balrons i made 35k hmm meaning if u farm it for 12 hours that 720 minutes so 35k*72 because you farm 35k in 10 minutes you get about 2520000. Thats not including the paragons, so please stop complaning and just get out there and kill some stuff.

[Georgia]

did I just smell a troll???

Nuff said!

[Iceblink]

Im sorry I actually logged out insted of just going AFK. I didnt mean to make the population go down.

[+Colibri]

Ok just to clarify, I didn't wake up one day after a dream where the number 410 was chasing me and I thought, the number 292 seems nicer, I'll make that the new price for wax. It's after much careful thinking and looking at statistics. Fact is, the gold sinks can't handle this much gold inflow.
The same situation came up after I added the illness to hives that happens if you have too many of them, and at that time I also dropped the wax/honey price a bit. But if i haven't done that, the state of the economy would be much worse now. Imagine, people had 100-150 hives back then.

There are two fundamental problems with beehives (though removing one would also take care of the other):
- In a way, they are unlimited. Although each player is limited to the approx 25 hives, all players can have them. For example with Balrons, even though they drop nice gold, if 200 players on this shard would want to hunt them 12 hours a day... there would just be a big queue at every Balron spawn. And most would probably decide it's better to go elsewhere rather than to wait for the other 10 people to finish before they can kill this one Balron.
- The price of honey and wax is static. Meaning that no matter how many people produce honey and wax, it will always be equally rewarding. Where as for example farming monsters for leather... Ok you can sell hides to the furtraders but that isn't really worth it, but you can sell leather to other players for a much bigger profit - but if everyone started doing that, price would go down (and you can't blame Colibri for that, it's just how a healthy market works). Well the current exex price of 43-15gp isn't exactly a good profit. But if there would be only one player with the ability to farm leather and sell it, i bet that the price would go way up.

Now, regarding the price of wax and honey, it won't go back up to 410. However there is a bit of an issue with the honeycomb clicking, for example someone who is colorblind has a bit of an issue with that, plus it was supposed to level the field between macroers and non-macroers, and from what I hear a script to potion the hives has already been made (and even if that's just a rumor, I'm pretty sure everything can be reverse-engineered). So, I will probably revisit this issue and do a little tweaking.
But I think that the more interactive view of the hive is quite a nice thing...

And there will probably be more uses for honey and wax in the future, so that it's used to make something cool, not just to sell for gold (for example ships with cannons).

Population: It varies from day to day, week to week, month to month. Although yeah lately in the evenings it's usually around 210-225 or even 250, the last few days have been around 200. But that could as well be attributed to let's say good weather and people spending more of their time outside

[foxlord]

i am colored blined and i do have a problem looking at the dots but i find them after clicking alot to find where they are.

[bearman]

i am colored blined and i do have a problem looking at the dots but i find them after clicking alot to find where they are.

Sorry but I have a problem with this. If the Dots were the same size but different colours then it would be difficult for a colour blind person, but the dots are almost 3 x the size. If I use Paint shop pro to remove all colour from the image I can still see a large dot.

[+Colibri]

Well, I don't know how it is to be colorblind but when I got a complaint about it I used this simulator:
http://www.colblindor.com/coblis-color- ... simulator/
On this image:
http://www.uoex.net/forum/download/file.php?id=981

And from what i can see, well it is a bit less visible, but yeah it's not so hard that it would be nearly impossible. Probably easier than trying to find a small pet at a champ spawn. But still something to consider.

[anarchy]

Bees were not the problem, the problem is the people that donate that don't even need to donate (...)

he's talking about me after that nasty little pm you sent me and then immediately put me on ignore *imo coward move there*
yes i do not need to donate, but i do for many reason i'll even list them so the mentally challenged individuals will understand.

1) i love to give away presents to friends--bday, xmas and the rest.
2) i love putting on events so others can enjoy those eds.
3) I love to hear that my donations go for the server, colibri and sadly enough even the cowards.
4) mostly Because I Can.

Here's the thing you don't understand..

some one who donates does not get gold unless he sells it to someone. so no, gold is not magically put into my bank for donating. Both I and +Nyx have told you that in global. If i sell eds then that means the buyer has to get gold, which he either has already or is hunting for to buy them.

Maybe its because it take Three Weeks 12 Hours a Day to Level a Weapon to 100

takes me about hm... 10 mins?

I play at least Twelve hours a day and I don't manage to get 5% of the gold I need for a relayer during a day so I need 20 days of 12 hours play to get ONE Cool Thing...... You Should not speak about "None said you HAD to donate" it is NOT the case you HAVE to donate if you don't want to take TWENTY DAYS before getting ONE SOMETHING(...........)

you DO NOT NEED TO DONATE. look at Krazy G he has stuff in his house i drool over. seriously!!

so you have 2 choices: deal wit it or quit. don't think anyone would really miss you all that much.

most important: Colibri you do not need to explain yourself. it's your shard run it how ever you like. IMO i think the staff are doing a great job...ie... weekly quests, Nyx's story time, Hina's Holloween decorating event, Chaos's order of the flame event, and so much more. Music stones with the staff's favorite music (very cool, wish you could get one in your house).


And Lastly my question to you: If your gonna do all the crying what's the baby suppose to do? o.O

Yours truly Anarchy

oh yeah i noticed how you didn't even mention that you went to the harrow a few times when most people haven't event gone once. how much did you make off those stat ps? could of thank some of those people in this big crying post.

[Modvlator]

Thanks for all your comments, None of you anarchy-like seem to have a bit more sens then my crying

Krazy G don't count hes not working I bet =P

Thanks Colibri for Understanding, im not trying to blame anyone just made my point on how LONG it is to get something cool

Some people work and don't donate... in that case you kinda have to donate or wake up late for work if you like to grow fast

im not willing to take 3 hours to write a post