Devlin wrote:Read my post;
Str from gear = 1.5 Hp per 1 str
Str from stats = 1 HP per 1 str, BUT ONLY TIL 100!
After 100 Str, you get .5 HP per 1 str. So boosting your str cap with ED is bad.
This is still not accurate. read my post above.
although str from gear does always give +1.5 hp, which may not be clear in my first post.
Last edited by Adrias on Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Boosting your str cap with ED is not "bad" its just not as useful. I still think 25 extra HP is better than a poke in the eye with a blunt stick and not having 25 HP. Yes? no? *Waves*
At 125 Str, you have 112. HP At 150 Str, you have 125 HP.
Equipment will always give you 1.5 HP. I'm just repeating myself, Adrias.
EDIT: Blaze, yeah, UOGuide does say "(Strength/2) + 50." My logic applies still
For the after 100 str part at least
EDIT2: Johnny, boosting your str cap isnt bad really, but there are many better things you can spend your cash on. Buying a +50 stat scroll/boosting the cap is 650 ED. Something much better spent on a relayer. Going from 125 str to 150 Str nets you 12 HP. A relayer gets you 20 HP (Or 22/23/30, depending on the wep/item), and a buttload of other stats too. I just got my str cap to 150 a week or so ago. I only used a +25 stat scroll, just lowered my int down to 25 and let the other pieces take care of it. If I didn't have the relayers/GoCs to cover my int, tho, I still don't think I would have spent any cash too boost my Str cap. Im a perfectionist, so I'd need the +50 stat, which even from players runs 400 ED.
Really good. And Anarchy mode + discordance and few other tricks, thats my way of doing things too. Well, I think I dont need HLA that much, but I am leveling Darkened Sky and right after mana leech I will add HLD, thats for sure. Well, now that I looked at it, Darkened Sky should be Kama, but not here.
Yeah, Mana Leech is essentially replaceable with Necro. ML is just a lazy way, avoids casting multiple spells.
I need to throw a skill guide in there, namely Discord (And I should level that too )
IMO, HLA > HLD.
HLD is great offensively, but when I'm in Wrong swinging my hammer, I'd much rather have HLA. Survivability > some more hits. But I have HLD/HLA on my hammer. So moot point
On a Yumi or something, HLD is definitely better, shouldn't be getting struck. Or a single target wep, like Darkened Sky.
Are you planning on touching on necro and WW with spell hit mechanics? These are very powerful especially necro to the newbie without a fantastic weapon.
Wraith form for mana leach, Curse weapon for life leach and the interaction of these with WW when striking multiple monsters.
Also might want to expound on why WW is so nice while aoeing with hit areas on multiple monsters. Worth noting that Hit Area initial damage is based off of weapon base damage making Hally the best option for pure AoE weapons.
Also for the person who enjoys playing melee dexxer might want to mention it behooves them to use bushido as it is one of the biggest damage increase skills aside from Tactics via CA.
I can write up some dexxer stuff including the above mentioned things if you like and you can pick and choose what to add.
I mentioned the benefits of WW and how it his all targets in range, I'll add a separate ability section that goes over each ability (the worthwhile ones)
Necro portion is still coming; I dont use it, so I have to do some research.
As for Halberds, yes, they might have a higher base wep damage, but Crushing Blow > Concussion Blow by far, definitely making War Hammers better.
As for bios? i dont use them personally, I suppose I can add something to the Imp Pets section concerning Bios, but really, just regens/RPD i suppose.
EDIT: Keep checking sections for updates, I'm tweaking this thing a few times a day.
Devlin wrote:Yeah, Mana Leech is essentially replaceable with Necro. ML is just a lazy way, avoids casting multiple spells.
I need to throw a skill guide in there, namely Discord (And I should level that too )
IMO, HLA > HLD.
HLD is great offensively, but when I'm in Wrong swinging my hammer, I'd much rather have HLA. Survivability > some more hits. But I have HLD/HLA on my hammer. So moot point
On a Yumi or something, HLD is definitely better, shouldn't be getting struck. Or a single target wep, like Darkened Sky.
You know, HLD means hitting more -> more life leech from vampiric form and curse weapon. And thats the thing I need the most, because when I am hitting more I dont need even bandages in normal fights. Right now I have sometimes problems, because I cant hit few times with special move, while it is quite ok with lightning strike. But of course, I have not that great equip.
Oh, and I must add one more thing, mana leech from wraith form is great, but only if the target really have mana. So, vampiric form is better for its life leech and poison immunity for me and angelic form for stat boost. Wraith form is after those two for me.
Dj Sticky wrote:Are you planning on touching on necro and WW with spell hit mechanics? These are very powerful especially necro to the newbie without a fantastic weapon.
Wraith form for mana leach, Curse weapon for life leach and the interaction of these with WW when striking multiple monsters.
Also might want to expound on why WW is so nice while aoeing with hit areas on multiple monsters. Worth noting that Hit Area initial damage is based off of weapon base damage making Hally the best option for pure AoE weapons.
Also for the person who enjoys playing melee dexxer might want to mention it behooves them to use bushido as it is one of the biggest damage increase skills aside from Tactics via CA.
I can write up some dexxer stuff including the above mentioned things if you like and you can pick and choose what to add.
Bushido is great, but sadly here you cant use Honor virtue, so big loss. I SO want my perfection here.
Seems I made a mistake and left out some vital information while editing original post. My bad. I edited it.
As for Johnny Warren. So we don't like each other... fair enough. What I said about HLD & HLA is very true... but wouldn't be needed of course for you and those like you because of your set ups. Not everyone has extra money to toss around for the best gear, or relayers. I have more important things to do, like pay bills. SO, when I say something, its based off of what i know and how i do things, with the items I have. Yes my gear is lacking, but I can hold my own with junk... Can you? Bet a Million you wouldn't last a week in the junk I have used for the last 4 months.
Further more, concerning Anarchy, a good friend of mine. I saw him drop like a rock when he got stunned at Umbri's camp, so yes i know what I'm talking about, though him dying is really rare.
I have solo'd an MoA spawn and champ, Dread Horn, Balrons, Ancient Wyrms, Black Lich, 2 Shadows at once, the front part of the Fel Wrong dungeon, and fought plenty of paragons and Pargons Wyrms and Balrons in my so called junk. (even managed to last 5 minutes VS a paragon Ancient wyrm)
I'd say I'm doing great. Would I compare myself to you. Never. I play the game, I don't rely on cookie cutter set ups, and donation goodies to get things done. It's not my way to have fun. Mind you, I'm in no way saying that doing or having such items is in any way wrong. To each their own, but let me have mine, I say.
What I am saying is: make fun of me all you wish Johnny, I'll start to pay attention when you're doing better then me using what I'm wearing. Until then, be well, and try not to bump into anything sharp. Might burst your bubble.
Criticism is good because it improves upon what came before, and solidifies the strongest of foundations.
Further more, concerning Anarchy, a good friend of mine. I saw him drop like a rock when he got stunned at Umbri's camp, so yes i know what I'm talking about, though him dying is really rare.
more common then you know. i took off my death notice.
[quote="anarchy"]more common then you know. i took off my death notice. [/quote]
hah. yep.
Mkay.
NECRO PART WILL BE ADDED. Thank you for your concerns about Vamp Embrace and all that nonsense, I'll add it.
HLD is better if you're in Umbris/Wrong with 20-30 mobs encircling you.
HLD is better on a War Hammer or any AoE weapon
HLA is good on a Yumi, or any single target DPS weapon.
And don't hijack my thread with your quarrels, to each his own
no method is the best (except mine, of course)
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Devlin wrote:I mentioned the benefits of WW and how it his all targets in range, I'll add a separate ability section that goes over each ability (the worthwhile ones)
Necro portion is still coming; I dont use it, so I have to do some research.
As for Halberds, yes, they might have a higher base wep damage, but Crushing Blow > Concussion Blow by far, definitely making War Hammers better.
As for bios? i dont use them personally, I suppose I can add something to the Imp Pets section concerning Bios, but really, just regens/RPD i suppose.
EDIT: Keep checking sections for updates, I'm tweaking this thing a few times a day.
Yea I know you mentioned WW hitting all targets but some may miss that each hit can proc your hit area which is what makes it REALLY good in AoEing.
I can tell you anything you want to know about necro. The cliff notes is if you don't have a decent weapon Wraith Form lets you spam everything as if you had 900% mana leach. Curse weapon should be used at all times, if you are AoEing with decent weapon skill it makes it simply impossible to die without a single bit of LL on your weapon or vamp form, if the mobs you are AoEing do not hit you for more then your max health without even using band aids. Corpse skin should be applied to all monsters you are using Consecrate Weapon on unless you are 100% sure that even with Corpse they have a resist lower then fire.
Yes CB > Conc but my mention was for a strictly AoE weapon in which case you are neither CBing nor Conc Blowing in which case > Base damage for higher hit are > ALL. I mean if just want to be middle of the road while AoEing sure, use a war hammer, but if you want to min/max your AoE weapon will be a hally and you'll use a War Hammer for everything else
Well, I think I dont need HLA that much, but I am leveling Darkened Sky and right after mana leech I will add HLD, thats for sure. 
Well, now that I looked at it, Darkened Sky should be Kama, but not here. 
I SO want my perfection here. 
