Bio Engineering?!?!

[Steve]

hi, i'v had a look on the wiki, and in the forums, but i'v yet to find a guide for Bio engineering.
as of now i want to make me a bio, i have 120 tinkering, 120 taming, and have tread a bio book.

everything else is a mystery to me, i know that i need DNA and 4 types, but no idea how to gather them, or make them (or however i obtain them) and use them

could some1 who has experience in making bio please post a little bit on what exactly and how i am supposed to make a bio

Thanks in advance
Stigmund.

[TheWatcher]

From what I understand you need somewhere in the vecinity of 4k luck to able to make them for anything under 20-30k organics.

I have never made one so am speaking with zero experience. From what I gather you need DNA vials 4 of them to collect the 4 types of DNA samples. What creatures you sample is from what I understand a closely guarded secret by minds far greater than mine. I believe you then put them into a DNA vial? The rest is a mystery to me.

TheWatcher

[Steve]

Thanks watcher, its a good start and i'v learned a bit more.
if any "greater minds" would care to shed light on the process?

Also, what do u think the chances of sum1 lending me a luck suite is? hehe, i'd be willing to pay for renting it but i only have around 8k organics atm, so im a bit of the way off.

Thanks for the replies, keep em coming.
Stigmund.

[fingers]

Hail,

As The watcher said, successefully grabbing DNA to get a maxed out bio pet requires a huge amount of luck on your suit. I did one of mine with "only" 1500 luck and it took me more than 60k of organics to get all the dna's needed. Some players here have managed to put toghetter 4000+ luck suit and will need an average of 20-30k of organics to obtain the same result. So you might want to get a hold of one of thoses players to do a bio pet for you. Lets say they charge you 40k of organics, you will still save alot of gold/organics, and that will give them 10-20k of organics.

If you still want to do it by yourself, here are some things that can be good to know:

The mimic DNA is what decides of the bio pet looks, counter attacks and special moves. You can decide to sample a human or a pet/monster. I found humans to be much more powerfull and they are easy to sample. Also, you want to have counter heal as a counter attack. It's really a roll of dice to get it and it can take 10-20k of organics before you get it. If you decide to sample a pet that you should usually be able to ride (Rend, red death, etc), be aware that as a bio pet, you wont be able to mount them.

Also, for the prowess, environment and mental, you need to find monsters that are just around the max for each carateristics. For an example, prowess decides of the strenght, hits and damage. The max strenght is 1200, the max HP is 3000 and the max damage is 18-26. Already, it will take many many tries to sample such DNA, but lets say you try to sample Slaarion, that has over 40000 hp, it will be almost impossible to sample its prowess, as a 3000 hp monster is much easier to sample than a 40000 hp one.

I hope this helps;-)

[Steve]

Thanks fingers,
So i assume u use the bio tool to sampe different types of DNA and use organics as the materials.
its also a bit disheartening with such a high amount of organics and luck to gather, i realy wanna make a bio of my own but it seems itl be alot quicker to buy one

do people sell DNA? so could i buy maxed DNA and then make the bio myself? or would the DNA dissapere if i fail?
Thanks.
Stigmund

[fingers]

Thanks fingers,
So i assume u use the bio tool to sampe different types of DNA and use organics as the materials.
its also a bit disheartening with such a high amount of organics and luck to gather, i realy wanna make a bio of my own but it seems itl be alot quicker to buy one

do people sell DNA? so could i buy maxed DNA and then make the bio myself? or would the DNA dissapere if i fail?
Thanks.
Stigmund

You use a bio tool, an empty bottle, 1000 organics and 15 iron ingots to attempt to make a vial. At 120 animal taming and 120 tinkering your success chance is 90%. Thoses vials are the ones you will use to gather your 4 types of DNAs: mimic, prowess, etc. Keep in mind that for very high quality of dna, you will brake multiple vials before succeeding.

You also need to make a vial set to combine all 4 vials. For that, 3 bottles, 5000 organics and 15 iron ingots are needed. There again the success chance is 90? if you are legendary tinker and tamer.

Vials can be bought. You can also buy a bio directly. If you go for a human bio, you will want to make him a suit with high reflect physical damage, spell chanelling sheild, spell chanelling weapon with high stamina and life leech. self repair 5 on the weapon comes in handy. Be also prepared to repair the armor often.

To give you an idea of the strenght of each type of bio, i can let my human one in front of a balron and he will put it down quite fast while not goingunder 80% life. If i do the same thing with a pet, it will be a close fight and if the bio wins, he will almost be redlined. The advantage though is that you dont need to dress your bio if it is a monster/animal, and his resists go up to 75 instad of 70 for a human.


To finish, bios are good tanks, but they will never kill as fast as a good pack of nobles or imprisoned pets. They cant be shrinked and cost 10 powder of translocation everytime you move them around in fel. The upper side is that, unlike nobles or other pets (except the imprisoned ones), they do not lose stats upon death.

I hope this helps

[krumhur]

Human bios use bandages too i guess?

Also, bios lose 0.1 (i've been told at least) of their skill each death, but can recover from the loss fighting, except for Poisoning.
Poisoning loss is permanent at the moment: i have no idea if devs are looking into it, to let bios gain back poison skill too. (i think i saw an april 2010 old post about it)

May i ask why do you want to play with bio engineering?

[anarchy]

i have a maxed human bio. i got it's reflect up to 110%, and i strictly use it as a blocker or wall. then i let my imps do the pounding. makes slaarion extremely easy to kill solo. .


bandie self...add some bandies to your human bio and it will heal itself with them. you can tell because the bandies will go down, but it's really unnoticeable as to how much health it heals.


don't care too much about poison, because the higher the monster you can poison; more likely it will cure itself. it's just easier to cast wall of poison, because if it does heal itself; it'll just get poisoned again, which is nice to keep it busy doing that instead of hitting my pets.

[Steve]

Awsome fingers thanks alot, thats exactly the kind of info i'v been looking for, as for me making a bio, i think il put it of for a wile and get a pack of squirels up and running

Thanks everyone for your contributions.
Stigmund.

[Steve]

Human bios use bandages too i guess?

Also, bios lose 0.1 (i've been told at least) of their skill each death, but can recover from the loss fighting, except for Poisoning.
Poisoning loss is permanent at the moment: i have no idea if devs are looking into it, to let bios gain back poison skill too. (i think i saw an april 2010 old post about it)

May i ask why do you want to play with bio engineering?

mainly just becasue when i first joined, the wiki newbie guide said something like the human bio pet is the best pet in the game.

[anarchy]

i believe the best pets in the game are the imprisoned they like the bios do not lose stats upon death. keep them at like 500 hps and they are extremely easy to res heal and put back into the killing. you really don't want to bring a bio to proxy. good luck